World Cup 2022 - Qatar

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:56 pm

Just got done watching it. Holy hell US is deep with attacking flair all of a sudden. Nice win in all respects.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:46 am

- the team being able to play loose and unafraid of the consequences of losing helped
- Pulisic being match fit and in decent form for his club helped. Not sure if that explains Aaronson or Weah
- Not everything was great: the left side of the defense is scary with Jedi and Long, and god forbid if something happens to Jedi.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:25 am

Yeah, I was at a DCU friendly and watched the game after I got home. There were some issues with the center backs and that position is going to be our downfall in Qatar if things don't shore up.

But, yeah, that was Morocco's A team, and we pretty much dusted them without Gio, Weston and Serginho... This team is stacked in terms of our midfield.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:52 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:25 am Yeah, I was at a DCU friendly and watched the game after I got home. There were some issues with the center backs and that position is going to be our downfall in Qatar if things don't shore up.

But, yeah, that was Morocco's A team, and we pretty much dusted them without Gio, Weston and Serginho... This team is stacked in terms of our midfield.

African teams are crap. So happy we drew Morocco. You guys are in tough drawing Iran and Ukraine(?) when you could have drawn one of the 5 African teams. Perhaps only Senegal is competitive.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:20 pm

Oh good was worried the CSA had gone too long without clown show hijinks.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:31 pm

Can we take that to mean you do not agree with their assessment of how they are compensated?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:03 pm

brian wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:31 pm Can we take that to mean you do not agree with their assessment of how they are compensated?

CSAs been incompetent my entire life. And now they are gifted a world cup spot and prize money and they will pay 10%?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:42 pm

For comparison’s sake, under the new CBA, the USMNT and USWNT are collectively getting 90% of the prize money for Qatar and the next WWC, and 80% of the prize money in the next cycle.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/05/18/us ... nt-details

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:56 pm

Have it...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:08 pm

Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:56 pmHave it...

Congrats, Tom!

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:14 pm

Already talking to Bazza about a long weekend in NYC for the Monday night game vs the USA on 21/11/2022. No more hotels in Doha, so may as well come to the US...

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:18 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:08 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:56 pmHave it...
Congrats, Tom!

Thanks, 64 years in the making, so excited...

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:23 pm

Yeah financial constraints of lining the pockets of their board members and first class tickets to Qatar.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:21 pm

Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:14 pm Already talking to Bazza about a long weekend in NYC for the Monday night game vs the USA on 21/11/2022. No more hotels in Doha, so may as well come to the US...

Do it! I’ll take the week off and go on a bender. I’m not castrating myself of the US win though.

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:27 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:21 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:14 pm Already talking to Bazza about a long weekend in NYC for the Monday night game vs the USA on 21/11/2022. No more hotels in Doha, so may as well come to the US...
Do it! I’ll take the week off and go on a bender. I’m not castrating myself of the US win though.

Is this a whoosh moment or did either myself or Bazza offer to remove a nut if Wales qualified for the WC finals?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:43 pm

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:51 pm

Crazy. So first the match was against Iran but people protested so that got scrapped and Panama was the replacement and now Canada won't take the field.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:07 pm

Obviously the CSA are incompetent. Now, they don't even seem to control all of their own income.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:08 pm

Let in Ukraine!

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:11 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:08 pmLet in Ukraine!

Scotland tried their best

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:24 pm

Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:11 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:08 pmLet in Ukraine!
Scotland tried their best

Relax you, Rex was joking to let Ukraine in, in reference to Canada going on strike...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:27 pm

the US midfield is a level of skill and attacking flair that used to be only a dream for this country.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:38 pm

Weah is on fire in this game.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:44 pm

“are”

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:57 pm

Did greggggg not realize there was a game today? Wtf is he wearing.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:58 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:38 pm Weah is on fire in this game.

Apparently coming off at half too. Man management.

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:59 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:24 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:11 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:08 pmLet in Ukraine!
Scotland tried their best
Relax you, Rex was joking to let Ukraine in, in reference to Canada going on strike...

I am completely aware of this, however the angle of giving Scotland some was there and I took a swing at it...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:31 am

These speak for me:

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:51 am

If we're chasing a game in the World Cup and Arriola comes on I will likely smash my television.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:08 am

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:57 pm Did greggggg not realize there was a game today? Wtf is he wearing.

I was giving him a lot of shit until I realized... While the color didn't work out well on TV, I think he was wearing orange in solidarity with the gun control awareness stuff that's going on right now.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:12 am

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:51 am If we're chasing a game in the World Cup and Arriola comes on I will likely smash my television.

I renamed him nipples at the little gathering I was at and it was very satisfying.

Nipples.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:12 am

The only way I have a problem with Arriola is if hes pushing 2026 starters off the roster. Not sure im ready to but Busio/Scally in that camp yet. This team is good but not that good. At some point theyll have to muck it up to get a result.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:20 am

And, tb, your earlier sentiment about the skill of our attacking players is exactly what we were on about, as well. It's pretty incredible to be in a situation where you without two of the most skilled players in our pool (Dest and Reyna) and we are still that skilled/dangerous going forward.

And if we ditch the idea of needing to play a big plodding guy up top and just let that guy be a terror with speed and interchanging with the midfield and wingers... It's incredibly difficult to defend that.

By far my biggest concern for this squad is centerback. Zimmerman seems pretty solid, but who lines up with him is a huge question mark right now.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:01 am

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:12 am The only way I have a problem with Arriola is if hes pushing 2026 starters off the roster. Not sure im ready to but Busio/Scally in that camp yet. This team is good but not that good. At some point theyll have to muck it up to get a result.

Unless you mean muck it up by fucking sucking, I don't see how he helps in an ugly game either.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:02 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:20 am And, tb, your earlier sentiment about the skill of our attacking players is exactly what we were on about, as well. It's pretty incredible to be in a situation where you without two of the most skilled players in our pool (Dest and Reyna) and we are still that skilled/dangerous going forward.

And if we ditch the idea of needing to play a big plodding guy up top and just let that guy be a terror with speed and interchanging with the midfield and wingers... It's incredibly difficult to defend that.

Who do we need to send the petition to? Why are we trying to do that when we can just hit opponents with waves of pace and skill instead?

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:07 am

Uhhh muck it up by defending with physicality, desire, work. He and other bench players do that better than a bunch of starters. Theyre not going to outclass anyone after the group if they get there.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:10 am

I love Arriola's grit and hustle, but he is so far off talent-wise, and we have so much talent at wing right now. The only time Arriola should see the field is if we are winning late in a game and it's getting chippy. Let him run at defenders with the ball and apply pressure and a hard foul while trying to win the ball. Or hold the ball in the corner and take a couple kicks to the shin to win a free kick. He can have some success against the minnows of CONCACAF, but that's it.

CB is looking sketchy if Miles Robinson isn't back. Even if he is, he'll be just returning and probably not up to speed. Long was looking pretty good before his injury, maybe with some time he gets back into form, but right now, he doesn't look good enough. I'd like to see Brooks back in the mix, I think this squad needs some experience, but maybe he truly is a locker room cancer, I can't really criticize Gregg there, but you have to wonder.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:12 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:02 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:20 am And, tb, your earlier sentiment about the skill of our attacking players is exactly what we were on about, as well. It's pretty incredible to be in a situation where you without two of the most skilled players in our pool (Dest and Reyna) and we are still that skilled/dangerous going forward.

And if we ditch the idea of needing to play a big plodding guy up top and just let that guy be a terror with speed and interchanging with the midfield and wingers... It's incredibly difficult to defend that.
Who do we need to send the petition to? Why are we trying to do that when we can just hit opponents with waves of pace and skill instead?

Agree in concept but some opponents wont let you get waves forward easily. Sometimes you will need to relieve pressure in the back with long balls and hold up. Someone will need to turn a 1/2 chance into if theyre not dominant on the ball. To me, getting McKinnie in the air in the box is the answer but you have to do that without leaving Adams alone with CBs to put out counters. Dest and Robinson dont have that in their DNA. And you want them running anyway.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:20 am

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:07 am Uhhh muck it up by defending with physicality, desire, work. He and other bench players do that better than a bunch of starters. Theyre not going to outclass anyone after the group if they get there.

Ah, the mythical less fucking talented but works harder guy. Fuck that.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:55 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:10 amI'd like to see Brooks back in the mix, I think this squad needs some experience, but maybe he truly is a locker room cancer, I can't really criticize Gregg there, but you have to wonder.

Is that the story? I'd been wondering for a while but never saw.