A non-masters/majors golf thread 2014-2021

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:07 am

pruitt2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:58 am And I read that the LIV folks are looking to buy time on Fox in order to get their events televised. With no ratings in the book, they're going to have to practically give ad space away.

And while a lot of golf fans are also in the pro-Trump camp, once that loud mouthed POS gets involved, a lot of potential viewers will find more time to spend with their families on the weekends rather than watch LIV

I bet there will be a significant number of people who have never done anything more than putt-putt who will tune in to offset the loss.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:25 am

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:38 am I think Koepka just doesn't really want to lay a full schedule.

I think I know what my wife wants Koepka to lay...

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:44 am

I think that LIV's biggest problem is the format. Limiting the field to 48 players (a good chunk of whom are past their prime) is naturally going to inhibit growth unless they are interested in paying guys not to play golf. And it's sort of a tenured position, even though form is fleeting in golf. What is the plan to replace legacy guys like Sergio and Phil when they start sucking too much (if that hasn't happened already)?

Then there is the tournament format (54 holes, no cut on second-tier courses), which I don't find to be compelling for fans in attendance, TV viewers or guys trying to sharpen their game. The pro-Tour guys may be going a little overboard in their spin with the "exhibition" talk, but it is certainly a less than ideal way to prepare for the majors.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:10 am

And here's the thing: In the absence of having a cut line, and the fact that (apparently) most of the higher end guys were just handed life altering money, therefore pretty close to zero incentive to go out and grind, what do the Saudis have to motivate the higher end guys?

Like... You just handed me $x00 Million. You gonna up the purse? Who fucking cares, I don't need THREE private planes.

There is truly a point where I just don't see what motivates these guys to play decent golf at these random ass venues, where barely anyone is watching.

I think for this thing to survive, it's gonna need to go full on Team Event, or something where the scoring gets weird. Like, the XFL of golf.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:19 am

It would certainly give a new version of Scramble for the Ball.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:28 am

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:19 am It would certainly give a new version of Scramble for the Ball.

Loser gets the bonesaw.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:54 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:10 am And here's the thing: In the absence of having a cut line, and the fact that (apparently) most of the higher end guys were just handed life altering money, therefore pretty close to zero incentive to go out and grind, what do the Saudis have to motivate the higher end guys?

Like... You just handed me $x00 Million. You gonna up the purse? Who fucking cares, I don't need THREE private planes.

There is truly a point where I just don't see what motivates these guys to play decent golf at these random ass venues, where barely anyone is watching.

I think for this thing to survive, it's gonna need to go full on Team Event, or something where the scoring gets weird. Like, the XFL of golf.

Except the PGA wants to that way too. 8 lucrative no-cut events

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-to ... l-schedule

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:11 pm

Right, which I'll pay zero attention to, but hey, I'm probably not their demo?

To be crystal, as the article states in the headline, this isn't about us right now, this is about a money/arms race on a different level.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:24 pm

I really don't get what the PGA is doing here. They spent years reworking the calendar to avoid competing with the NFL, and now this? Plus it's too many events and still not enough money which was the problem in the first place.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:40 am

Stolen from Private Eye

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:09 am

Dahmen looks odd, but you have to click the pic to get the full experience.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:17 am

So I've been thinking. Read the Ringer article about LIV and it's what you would think. Just awful people deciding to do awful things. Which brings me to the thought that there is only one thing that will tank LIV. And it's Augusta banning LIV members, even former champs, from playing. I don't think they will, but they've been way more progressive than I ever thought they would be lately to be honest. If they did, it would be hilarious, and I think it would move the needle.

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:20 am

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:09 am

Dahmen looks odd, but you have to click the pic to get the full experience.

A one legged golfer is an inspiration to everyone.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:23 am

Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:20 am

A one legged golfer is an inspiration to everyone.

Right!?!?!?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:29 am

"FORE!!!!!"

"No, just three asshole"

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:34 pm

One image to demonstrate why you should not support the LIV thing in any way, shape or form.

: Screen Shot 2022-07-28 at 2.22.00 PM.png (174.86 KiB) Viewed 700 times

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:08 am

That's a manly man right there.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:27 am

Patrick Reed is suing The Golf Channel & Brandel Chamblee for $750m....he claims the pundit's opinions have led to fans calling him a 'cheater' at events.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:37 am

Not surprised that someone who has been caught cheating multiple times would deny any personal responsibility.

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:08 am

Baloney wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:27 am Patrick Reed is suing The Golf Channel & Brandel Chamblee for $750m....he claims the pundit's opinions have led to fans calling him a 'cheater' at events.

So one of the reasons he's suing is that PGA golfers and a network that broadcasts it are trying to damage the competing tour?

I'll pull out and adapt one of my favourite lines - "Just because he's a (professional golfer) doesn't necessarily mean he's a genius."

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:33 am

What is his theory? That his reputation was so tarnished that he had to accept a zillion dollar deal to get away from it all?

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:22 pm

Rory's scorecard today is utterly ridiculous.

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:52 am

Jerloma wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:22 pm Rory's scorecard today is utterly ridiculous.

So I'm just like Rory - I often get 4 pars a round as well!

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:32 am

Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:52 am
Jerloma wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:22 pm Rory's scorecard today is utterly ridiculous.
So I'm just like Rory - I often get 4 pars a round as well!

Nobody likes a bragger!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:22 pm

Post by **Sabo** » Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:37 am

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:31 pm

I have to admit, it was fun to see the internationals play their way into a fighting chance.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:00 pm

I don't know if it's just because I want it to be close and dramatic, or I'm a sucker for an underdog, or I'm just exhausted by American Nationalism, but anyone else find themselves rooting for the foreigners in this?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:03 pm

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:39 pm

Anyone from a non-Confederate state?

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:06 am

Border state!

Post by **Sabo** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:26 am

Jerloma wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:00 pm I don't know if it's just because I want it to be close and dramatic, or I'm a sucker for an underdog, or I'm just exhausted by American Nationalism, but anyone else find themselves rooting for the foreigners in this?

I wouldn’t say I’m rooting for the International team entirely, but I am rooting for Hideki Matsuyama and Tom Kim. I’ve never heard of Tom Kim before this event but now I want to watch him every damn week.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:43 am

At least root for him to become famous enough to write “The Golf of Tom Kim”

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:37 am

Ryan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:43 am At least root for him to become famous enough to write “The Golf of Tom Kim”

He’s funnier before 8AM than most people are all day.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:49 am

I was rooting for Tom Kim to make his putt because I thought it might be fun (and it was).

I might have rooted against the older guys, but in golf's current time of troubles, I think it actually may be important for this US team to win. Or not to lose.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:05 pm

This could be interesting if the internationals win 3 out of the first 4 matches, making it effectively 12-10. US has a ginormous advantage in the next 3, but after that, eeehhhhhh. I mean the Jets won a game last week.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:50 pm

Sabo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:26 am
Jerloma wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:00 pm I don't know if it's just because I want it to be close and dramatic, or I'm a sucker for an underdog, or I'm just exhausted by American Nationalism, but anyone else find themselves rooting for the foreigners in this?
I wouldn’t say I’m rooting for the International team entirely, but I am rooting for Hideki Matsuyama and Tom Kim. I’ve never heard of Tom Kim before this event but now I want to watch him every damn week.

He is a lot of fun, and he's only 20 yo.

SW Kim and J. Thomas getting very spicy. Kim did the "shush" gesture and it didn't go down real well. That said, he's now 1UP, so... Good for him.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:11 pm

I don't want to get in trouble, but... If these Korean guys showed this kind of emotion and character more regularly, they would do themselves wonders in terms of Q rating and marketability.

A lot of fun to watch both Kims this weekend.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:32 pm

Not the luckiest hole for Matsuyama

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:56 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:32 pm Not the luckiest hole for Matsuyama

As Azinger said, what the f was the marshal even doing over there??