The OFFICIAL 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:59 am

Giff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:21 am I hope you received permission to post that.

I did not. Pray for me.

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:24 pm

FFS this stuff is nuts, the first guy to get banned was Pacman Jones and he got done for an entire season (that situation was not during the current CBA). Pacman did some stuff, he admitted some of it and it was not great, but I am pretty sure it didn't involve 24 + cases of sexual assault.

Didn't Calvin Ridley get a season for a bit of gambling, or am I mis-remembering his shit?

Also, is the Judge related to Watson, or blowing him, or some such?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:22 pm

Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:24 pm FFS this stuff is nuts, the first guy to get banned was Pacman Jones and he got done for an entire season (that situation was not during the current CBA). Pacman did some stuff, he admitted some of it and it was not great, but I am pretty sure it didn't involve 24 + cases of sexual assault.

Didn't Calvin Ridley get a season for a bit of gambling, or am I mis-remembering his shit?

Also, is the Judge related to Watson, or blowing him, or some such?

The only justification I can think of, and I'm not agreeing with it, is Ridley bet on NFL games while Watson's infractions had no connection to the NFL.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:23 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:22 pm
Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:24 pm FFS this stuff is nuts, the first guy to get banned was Pacman Jones and he got done for an entire season (that situation was not during the current CBA). Pacman did some stuff, he admitted some of it and it was not great, but I am pretty sure it didn't involve 24 + cases of sexual assault.

Didn't Calvin Ridley get a season for a bit of gambling, or am I mis-remembering his shit?

Also, is the Judge related to Watson, or blowing him, or some such?
The only justification I can think of, and I'm not agreeing with it, is Ridley bet on NFL games while Watson's infractions had no connection to the NFL.

Well, except his former team that settled dozens of cases.

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:28 pm

Women working for the NFL need to be coming out collectively and stating how shite this is...

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:33 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:22 pmThe only justification I can think of, and I'm not agreeing with it, is Ridley bet on NFL games while Watson's infractions had no connection to the NFL.

I think its fine to disconnect those two, but then you get into Josh Gordon et all ...

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:40 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:33 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:22 pmThe only justification I can think of, and I'm not agreeing with it, is Ridley bet on NFL games while Watson's infractions had no connection to the NFL.
I think its fine to disconnect those two, but then you get into Josh Gordon et all ...

But drugs!

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:59 pm

Watson is clearly a piece of shit and the Browns organisation has plenty of proper cunts at the top (you just need to look at Watson's contract). The Texans clearly have some complete wankers ensuring that legally they are not up to their necks by paying all these women off.

I am sure their are plenty of other entitled, sexist, misogynistic players, coaches and front office types in the NFL. I am also sure there are a lot of lawyers making money from all of this, but at what point does it become a joke?

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:53 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:22 pm
The only justification I can think of, and I'm not agreeing with it, is Ridley bet on NFL games while Watson's infractions had no connection to the NFL.

Rozelle put a really thick line in the sand decades ago when he suspended two All Pros for a year for betting on games.

Neither he, nor any succeeding Commissioner has done the same with sex crimes. I fully understand the former, but the latter makes no sense.

(Unless of course, misogyny)

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:44 pm

Wow.

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:01 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:44 pm

Wow.

It’s a special recipe made for the Alouettes (red peel potatoes, cheese curds, pork lard and pulled pork from Quebec, caramel popcorn, fried onions, and Avril’s signature maple and Amaretto sauce.

The good news is that there is a hospital literally next door to their stadium.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:05 pm

It’s important that the pork lard be locally sourced.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:26 pm

My paternal grandmother used pork lard to start her red gravy. Good as hell.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:43 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:05 pm It’s important that the pork lard be locally sourced.

Pretty hearty LOL over here. Also think I suffered a heart attack just reading that description.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:07 pm

The caramel popcorn at the end made me feel sick.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:32 pm

Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:59 pm Watson is clearly a piece of shit and the Browns organisation has plenty of proper cunts at the top (you just need to look at Watson's contract). The Texans clearly have some complete wankers ensuring that legally they are not up to their necks by paying all these women off.

I am sure their are plenty of other entitled, sexist, misogynistic players, coaches and front office types in the NFL. I am also sure there are a lot of lawyers making money from all of this, but at what point does it become a joke?

At the point where Tom Brady may have gamed a very un-governed policy on weighted footballs received a four game suspension, and a man who sexually assault over 30 women received one for six games.

Fuck this league.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:37 pm

Tom Brady most definitely kicks puppies though.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:47 pm

Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:53 pmNeither he, nor any succeeding Commissioner has done the same with sex crimes. I fully understand the former, but the latter makes no sense.

(Unless of course, misogyny)

It’s that they straight up don’t care unless fans care. See Ray Rice before and after others saw the video the league already had access to.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:41 am

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:00 am

Tom 1860 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:28 pm Women working for the NFL need to be coming out collectively and stating how shite this is...

I am reminded of asking a someone of her opinion of how her employer handled Ray Rice in the immediate aftermath, but leading the question with "you, as a person, not as an employee". Answer was very boilerplate and centered around how they're trying.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:05 am

Ray Ratto in yesterday's daily email from Defector (weekdays only):

Roger Goodell may not be happy about the Deshaun Watson suspension-ette (six games and $345,000, or .0015 of his $230 million salary), because it makes the NFL look incredibly complicit in Watson's behavior. But he still has the final say as the stuffed shirt who hears any appeal, including one that would be filed by the league that pays him $60 million per year.

That said, since he's almost certainly a short-timer whose reputation among anyone not devoted to the accumulation of obscene wealth without consequences is already filth, he probably won't bother to do anything. The power lost in the commissioner's office will be the problem of one of his successors, Troy Vincent, or Eric Trump, or Sean Hannity, and the desecrated view of the NFL as fun for women as well as men is not going to matter because the NFL eats bad news and shits it out as good news as part of their titanium colon. Nothing happened here—again.

But let's be honest—any system of justice run by the employer is bound to be not just imperfect but nowhere close to justice. The NFL's job is not to do right by people, but about protecting people inside the shield and minimizing any P.R. damage those people do. Watson's sexual assault allegations never mattered nearly as much as getting the talented miscreant back at his metaphorical desk as quickly as possible. The NFL will weather this as they will weather Danny Snyder, as they weather everything else—with an outstretched hand waiting for cash and an extended middle finger protruding from the other.

Watson won outright because he has proven he can be the best player on a bad team and is therefore officially in the good graces of his employer forever. The NFL Players Association won because it now sets the new precedent for punishment at 35 percent of a season for anything except punching a woman in an elevator on video (Ray Rice) and kidnapping an owner at gunpoint (not yet done, but we live in hope). The Cleveland Browns won because their gamble to throw the entire NFL salary structure into an incinerator pays off; maybe they knew all along that Watson was never going to do more than the six. Even women won,in a weird ass-backward way, because while they have been reminded yet again and more firmly than ever that they are merely usable commodities with platinum cards in the eyes of the league, they now have even less reason to fall for the largely illusory lure of watching a Browns-Bengals game.

It does, however, end the notion of the commissioner as a judge and jury, because Goodell, who was hired to discipline rogue employees, failed at it so often that he largely gave up trying and settled for beating the networks out of billions and collecting more than $400 million for doing so. Now he's gotten rid of the mall cop headache, too, leaving him with only one onerous duty: answering for the industry that is for brains what coal is for lungs. And that he'll probably leave for Vincent, too.

Or knowing how cynical these creeps are, Marjorie Taylor Greene.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:15 am

The sad thing, as much bad press and "damage to the shield" that will come out of this weak ass suspension, giving Watson a deserving suspension or outright ban from the league would cause more reputational harm to the League. Saying this horrendous guy got a full season or lifetime ban kind of brings more attention to the underlying offenses (crimes?) and make them seem worse since they earned a bigger suspension. Not sure if my wording makes sense there. In a lot of ways, if Watson goes on to a successful career, his taint from this will be whitewashed. Sure, we all call Roethlisberger a rapist and Ray Lewis a murderer, but they returned to the league with their reputation virtually unscathed. Hell, Vick served prison time and returned and his appearance in games sort of normalized.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:21 am

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:53 pm

With Why Your Team Sucks starting today, my NFL ‘22 prep will be reading the team preview in Football Outsiders then Magary, but I think I could be swayed in the other order.

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:23 pm

I have been watching sports for a hell of a long time, and even as a 10 year old who would cry after a tough loss by one of my teams, I never, ever wished harm on any athlete - no matter who they played for.

But I would really enjoy seeing Deshaun Watson get Theismanned in his first game for the Browns. I realize that his money is guaranteed, but it would be a joy to see the Browns doomed for the foreseeable future because they signed the POS.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:21 pm

https://therapist.news/therapy/clevelan ... s-stadium/

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:16 pm

Check that URL.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:19 pm

Yeah, posted the link following the wlu-style guidelines on purpose.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:20 pm

We're probably the only two clever enough to notice so I'm glad I called it out.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:24 pm

You're the only one who caught onto the trick I did with the 5th letter of each post in the Griffith Observatory thread so you're probably right.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:43 pm

Even more impressive given that's a post I don't even bother opening.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:31 pm

Wait, wait, wait you're saying that when you posted "my nAme IS daVe anD my dicK is hairier than my BallLs" that was just you??

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:03 pm

I've got Mac Jones as back-up qb on a dynasty team. What's going on, Pats fans...

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:35 pm

Bad vibes. Long play ok but growing pains. New offense

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:22 pm

thanks

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:59 am

From "Why Your Team Sucks"...

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DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:39 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:03 pm I've got Mac Jones as back-up qb on a dynasty team. What's going on, Pats fans...

"Matt Patricia will work as senior football advisor/offensive line coach while Joe Judge serves as an offensive assistant/quarterbacks coach. The Patriots ultimately decided against naming an offensive coordinator to replace Josh McDaniels."

And more awesome news for the Bears...

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:57 am

Yeah, but i dont think its the new offensive coaches. Belichick wanted a new scheme. Reports since OTAs about substantial changes to the playbook. Supposedly trying to copy McVay and Niners.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:09 am

With Mac Jones as the QB? Um. Ok. That doesn't seem like a great plan but, genuinely, what do I know.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:30 am

Well, yes, his fit has been a question. Either Belichick isnt so in love with Mac or thinks he can get it done in that scheme.