World Cup 2014 Knockout Rounds (SPOILERS, YO!)
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World Cup 2014 Knockout Rounds (SPOILERS, YO!)
Can you believe they have played 48 games? That's just flown by.
anyone making predictions?
Here are mine.
Huitiemes:
Brazil - Chile *2-2 penalties
Colombia - Uruguay 1000-0
France - Nigeria 3-1
Germany - Algeria 2-0
Mexico - Netherlands *1-1 penalties
Costa Rica - Greece 0-1
Argentina - Switzerland 4-2
Belgium - USA 2-3* extra time
Quarters:
Brazil - Colombia 3-2
Germany - France 1-1* penalties
Mexico - Greece 1-0
USA - Argentina 2-3* extra time
Semifinals:
Brazil- France 1-2
Mexico - Argentina 1-3
Bronze medal;
Brazil - Mexico 2-1
Final:
France - Argentina 3-2
anyone making predictions?
Here are mine.
Huitiemes:
Brazil - Chile *2-2 penalties
Colombia - Uruguay 1000-0
France - Nigeria 3-1
Germany - Algeria 2-0
Mexico - Netherlands *1-1 penalties
Costa Rica - Greece 0-1
Argentina - Switzerland 4-2
Belgium - USA 2-3* extra time
Quarters:
Brazil - Colombia 3-2
Germany - France 1-1* penalties
Mexico - Greece 1-0
USA - Argentina 2-3* extra time
Semifinals:
Brazil- France 1-2
Mexico - Argentina 1-3
Bronze medal;
Brazil - Mexico 2-1
Final:
France - Argentina 3-2
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I like your France as Champions prediction. Which reminds me, can we get an update on the pool? I am too lazy to try and find the point system. Pissed France and Nigeria, my two advancing teams, play each other.
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Yeah, that's a shame. FOR YOU! Suck it!
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FWIW, I think Spain, Netherlands, Chile was the group of death.
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With the benefit of hindsight yeah.govmentchedda wrote:FWIW, I think Spain, Netherlands, Chile was the group of death.
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It was equal to our group before the tourney. Spain is miles better than they showed at this WC. Chile is fantastic, as are the Dutch.
Did you notice that we (USMNT), had a win that felt like a tie (Ghana), a tie that felt like a loss (Portugal), and a loss that felt like a win (Germany)?
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H/t partially @MeninBlazers
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Klinsmann said it himself.
"It's called a death group because we're in it"
"It's called a death group because we're in it"
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Huitiemes:
Brazil - Chile 3-2 (on a cheap penalty call by an intimidated ref)
Colombia - Uruguay 3-1
France - Nigeria 3-1
Germany - Algeria 3-0
Mexico - Netherlands 1-3
Costa Rica - Greece 2-0
Argentina - Switzerland 2-0
Belgium - USA 2-3
Quarters:
Brazil - Colombia 3-2
Germany - France 3-2
Netherlands - Greece 3-0
USA - Argentina 0-3
Semifinals:
Brazil- Germany 1-2
Netherlands - Argentina 1-2
Bronze medal;
Brazil - Netherlands 2-0
Final:
Germany - Argentina 1-3
Brazil - Chile 3-2 (on a cheap penalty call by an intimidated ref)
Colombia - Uruguay 3-1
France - Nigeria 3-1
Germany - Algeria 3-0
Mexico - Netherlands 1-3
Costa Rica - Greece 2-0
Argentina - Switzerland 2-0
Belgium - USA 2-3
Quarters:
Brazil - Colombia 3-2
Germany - France 3-2
Netherlands - Greece 3-0
USA - Argentina 0-3
Semifinals:
Brazil- Germany 1-2
Netherlands - Argentina 1-2
Bronze medal;
Brazil - Netherlands 2-0
Final:
Germany - Argentina 1-3
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Well that is good news for the US. It looks like Jermaine Jones broke his nose in the collision with Bedoya. He is expected to play. Just about any other player, I'd worry about that changing their play, but Jones is a tough dude. I also just saw that Jozy ran in practice. That is a great sign. Don't know if he will be able to play, and I hope they don't rush him back just to reinjure his hammy and waste an early substitution.
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If they're on the fence about him, I'd rather see them bring Jozy in as a late sub if we need an offensive spark. But I trust the physios and Jozy that they're not going to push it unless he can go.The Sybian wrote:Well that is good news for the US. It looks like Jermaine Jones broke his nose in the collision with Bedoya. He is expected to play. Just about any other player, I'd worry about that changing their play, but Jones is a tough dude. I also just saw that Jozy ran in practice. That is a great sign. Don't know if he will be able to play, and I hope they don't rush him back just to reinjure his hammy and waste an early substitution.
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Listening to Howler radio and they raised an issue I had not thought about or heard much about, but Ramadan starts tomorrow. This impacts Algeria, Benzema (France), Ozil (Germany), Shaqiri (one of several on the Swiss roster)
NY Times wrote:Islam provides some exemptions to fasting for Ramadan, for the sick and for those who are traveling, and the United Arab Emirates’ soccer team was granted an exemption during the 2012 Olympics by the country’s highest religious body on those grounds. Muslims are also permitted to catch up on missed fast days at a later date, although this is sometimes frowned on in the Middle East and parts of Africa
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I heard that. They are travelling so I think it's ok.
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Islam - The Religion of Pfft, No Biggie on the RulesNY Times wrote:Islam provides some exemptions to fasting for Ramadan, for the sick and for those who are traveling, and the United Arab Emirates’ soccer team was granted an exemption during the 2012 Olympics by the country’s highest religious body on those grounds. Muslims are also permitted to catch up on missed fast days at a later date, although this is sometimes frowned on in the Middle East and parts of Africa
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Some thoughts:
* I'm not sure even on hindsight, that I'd even cede the Group of Death to the other group.
Spain (crap) = Portugal (pants)
Germany > Netherlands (barely)
Chile > Ghana (clearly)
US > Australia (clearly, if not, than more than barely)
* For the second WC in a row, UEFA is kind of shitting the bed. I was curious about this, so I did some quick numbers, progressing to the Knockout Stage:
2014 - 6/13
2010 - 6/13
2006 - 10/14
2002 - 10/15
I'm not ready to call that a decline in UEFA, or even a real trend, but... 2018 in Russia is going to be extremely interesting to see how CONCACAF and AFC handle things. (BTW, CONCACAF had 2/3 in 2002, 1/3 in 2006, 2/3 in 2010 and 3/4 this year... CONMEBOL absolutely doesn't give a shit... 2/5 in 02, 3/4 in 06, 5/5 in 10, and 5/6 this year.)
* Klinnsman has said Jozy looks good in training and they are hopeful he's in uniform next Tuesday. That'd be a little over 2 weeks since the injury, which is right inside the general window... just. I don't see any chance he starts, but to have him off the bench if necessary is massive. Not the least of which is the mental boost for the squad.
* I'm not sure even on hindsight, that I'd even cede the Group of Death to the other group.
Spain (crap) = Portugal (pants)
Germany > Netherlands (barely)
Chile > Ghana (clearly)
US > Australia (clearly, if not, than more than barely)
* For the second WC in a row, UEFA is kind of shitting the bed. I was curious about this, so I did some quick numbers, progressing to the Knockout Stage:
2014 - 6/13
2010 - 6/13
2006 - 10/14
2002 - 10/15
I'm not ready to call that a decline in UEFA, or even a real trend, but... 2018 in Russia is going to be extremely interesting to see how CONCACAF and AFC handle things. (BTW, CONCACAF had 2/3 in 2002, 1/3 in 2006, 2/3 in 2010 and 3/4 this year... CONMEBOL absolutely doesn't give a shit... 2/5 in 02, 3/4 in 06, 5/5 in 10, and 5/6 this year.)
* Klinnsman has said Jozy looks good in training and they are hopeful he's in uniform next Tuesday. That'd be a little over 2 weeks since the injury, which is right inside the general window... just. I don't see any chance he starts, but to have him off the bench if necessary is massive. Not the least of which is the mental boost for the squad.
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I still think for 5 automatic spots, Africa is poor. This is the first time ever Africa has 2 teams in the knockout stages.
24 teams
1982 0/2
1986 1/2 (Morocco)
1990 1/2 (Cameroon)
1994 1/2 (Nigeria)
32 teams
1998 1/5 (Nigeria)
2002 1/5 (Senegal)
2006 1/5 (Ghana)
2010 1/6 (Ghana)
2014 2/5 (Nigeria/Algeria)
After their 1990 run, Cameroon has failed the make if out of the group stage 5 times (94,98,02,10,14)
24 teams
1982 0/2
1986 1/2 (Morocco)
1990 1/2 (Cameroon)
1994 1/2 (Nigeria)
32 teams
1998 1/5 (Nigeria)
2002 1/5 (Senegal)
2006 1/5 (Ghana)
2010 1/6 (Ghana)
2014 2/5 (Nigeria/Algeria)
After their 1990 run, Cameroon has failed the make if out of the group stage 5 times (94,98,02,10,14)
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I agree degen. The flip side of that is CONMEBOL especially on recent form. I think CONCACAF is about right.
The politics and numbers will make it impossible to lower Africa's number of slots.
The politics and numbers will make it impossible to lower Africa's number of slots.
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I have a feeling we're going to 40 before too long so a lot of this will be academic.
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can't see how 40 works though, groups of 5 are really annoying to schedule. A team always has to sit out and the team that sit out last will feel aggrieved.
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They would just do 10 groups of four. Two groups (i.e. A and B) play on same day. Matches could be at 1,3,5,7 (or whatever) local time. TV would lose their hour break between matches but I hardly think they'd care. Everyone would have 4 days between group matches and it would work well for the round of 16 as the groups playing on same days would meet each other so no whining about extra time off. It will happen if the product is not viewed as diluted.degenerasian wrote:can't see how 40 works though, groups of 5 are really annoying to schedule. A team always has to sit out and the team that sit out last will feel aggrieved.
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how do you determine your top 16? 10 group winners plus 6 wildcards?
Since there are only 6 wildcards, 4 of the group winners would be playing each other immediately.
Also if your wildcard teams came from Groups I and J, they would almost certainly play a group winner while having less rest.
Since there are only 6 wildcards, 4 of the group winners would be playing each other immediately.
Also if your wildcard teams came from Groups I and J, they would almost certainly play a group winner while having less rest.
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I think they'd probably take 20. Could give byes to the top 12 based on total points & make the bottom 8 duke it out. Would be an advantage to winning your group. An extra couple of days off.degenerasian wrote:how do you determine your top 16? 10 group winners plus 6 wildcards?
Since there are only 6 wildcards, 4 of the group winners would be playing each other immediately.
Also if your wildcard teams came from Groups I and J, they would almost certainly play a group winner while having less rest.
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Conmebol has to eat its own today. All four teams playing today from South America.
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Another injury for Belgium. Right back Anthony Vanden Borre broke his ankle and is out for the rest of the World Cup. He isn't their starting RB, so this isn't a massive blow for the team.
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Yes but still 4 of the group winners have to play immediately. Could be germany vs hollandbrian wrote:I think they'd probably take 20. Could give byes to the top 12 based on total points & make the bottom 8 duke it out. Would be an advantage to winning your group. An extra couple of days off.degenerasian wrote:how do you determine your top 16? 10 group winners plus 6 wildcards?
Since there are only 6 wildcards, 4 of the group winners would be playing each other immediately.
Also if your wildcard teams came from Groups I and J, they would almost certainly play a group winner while having less rest.
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Since we were talking groups of death...here is the original group of death in 1986.
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West Germany
Scotland
Uruguay
Denmark
Denmark was a newbie and got put in the last pot with South Korea, Iraq, Canada, Algeria and Morocco. Uruguay got a red card in each game.
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West Germany
Scotland
Uruguay
Denmark
Denmark was a newbie and got put in the last pot with South Korea, Iraq, Canada, Algeria and Morocco. Uruguay got a red card in each game.
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This game is so open.
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Chile is fun to watch
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Our witchdoctors are better than Ghana's. You're welcome.Sabo wrote:Another injury for Belgium.
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Wow an anti-brazil decision
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Tattoos must be big business in Chile
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I refuse to be in awe of a team whose second choice striker is Jo.
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Jo Who?
(Jo Mama!)
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This won't be tense at all.
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I like the Chilean keeper, based on the last 120 minutes.
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…or the Brazilian keeper might do well
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Toronto FC's own!howard wrote:…or the Brazilian keeper might do well
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The Columbian kid can play a little.