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U.S. pairings now as clear as the Scottish sky (really): Phil-Keegan; Zach-Mahan; Furyk-Reed; Kuchar-Spieth; Bubba-Webb; and Jimmy-Rickie.
Projected winner: Europe
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[Jason Sobel
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U.S. pairings now as clear as the Scottish sky (really): Phil-Keegan; Zach-Mahan; Furyk-Reed; Kuchar-Spieth; Bubba-Webb; and Jimmy-Rickie.
Rory made a mess for sure. When he missed the green from 90 yards it was pretty shocking. I know he was trying to knock it close because Sergio was in a bad spot, but still.Rex wrote:This is like four yahoos finishing up at the local muni
Here you go.Ryan wrote:I'm here for the WAG slideshow
Front row wins!degenerasian wrote:Here you go.Ryan wrote:I'm here for the WAG slideshow
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Who do we blame for this shit? These guys ^? Bubba? Watson (Tom)?Rex wrote:I don't think I'd want to be within earshot of Bradley or Phil the Tits for a while.
Oh yeah, him. Fucker.Sabo wrote:This is all Tiger Woods' fault.
Have to disagree to this extent: Watson threw Lefty under the bus first. He was speaking of Phil when he said if everyone played everyday maybe the players would be in better shape and again when he disclosed the actual conversations and texts about Saturday. He didn't have to do that. He shouldn't have done it. And, yet, he did it. And I believe it was intentional, though he was just answering a media question.cerrano wrote:If you caught NBC's interview with Mickletits, you might have noticed he was a little cagey when asked about whether there is a winning formula that Europe has employed to dominate the competition of late. His response was simply "yes", which he was asked to elaborate on. His response about how Azinger had the right formula in '08 and he's not sure why the U.S. has moved away from that made him sound like he was throwing Watson under a red double-decker.
He may be right, but what a douche.
Certainly at the very top Europe is stronger, but having said that both teams had 4 in World Golf Rankings Top 10. At the bottom, USA's worst was #33, Europe's bottom included #34, 38 and 44, so not sure Europe has the better golfing talent throughout their lineup.Tom 1860 wrote:How about someone from the other side of the pond just saying that Europe has the better golfing talent at the moment and be done with it???
Not having Dustin and Dufner was huge for the US this time around...
i felt that watson was out of his depth. it didn't appear that his picks were well-thought out, right from the get-go leaving furyk out of the friday morning 4-ball. i wasn't aware that watson did this, but phil could have let tom's comments speak for themselves in the wake of the abject failure of the us team in scotland.SportsDoc wrote:Have to disagree to this extent: Watson threw Lefty under the bus first. He was speaking of Phil when he said if everyone played everyday maybe the players would be in better shape and again when he disclosed the actual conversations and texts about Saturday. He didn't have to do that. He shouldn't have done it. And, yet, he did it. And I believe it was intentional, though he was just answering a media question.cerrano wrote:If you caught NBC's interview with Mickletits, you might have noticed he was a little cagey when asked about whether there is a winning formula that Europe has employed to dominate the competition of late. His response was simply "yes", which he was asked to elaborate on. His response about how Azinger had the right formula in '08 and he's not sure why the U.S. has moved away from that made him sound like he was throwing Watson under a red double-decker.
He may be right, but what a douche.
So, Lefty goes 2-1, including winning the Sunday singles, and decides to do a quid pro quo when also answering a media question. I don't think it was wise, but I don't think for a minute that Phil threw the first salvo in public here, Watson did. Add to that, Watson took very little blame for all the mistakes he made, which included all of his Captain's picks, and how he lined up Friday PM and Saturday.
Here's the reality as I see it, if that needed to be said so history doesn't repeat itself only two USA players could have said it, and one of them wasn't there. I'm giving Phil an "A" for having the balls to say it, and an "F" for the timing. Meanwhile, I'm giving Watson an "F" for his entire Ryder Cup Captaincy for 2014.
Because the Ryder Cup is 174% mental. If the World team even thinks about this for one second, they immediately realize they could start wearing European flag sweaters and petite-size pants and kick our ass every time in that too.Rex wrote:I wonder why there aren't any positive lessons that can be taken from the President's Cup teams, who always win. It's the same players for the most part--what are they doing right there? I don't buy that the level of competition is that much worse--the internationals may have a few quirky guys but there are plenty of major winners there, just like the US and Euros.
Why doesn't the PGA throw in doubles tournaments in the offseason? The wraparound season just makes things worse. Do we really need 6 more FedEx Cup events. Players just aren't used to playing with each other while either hitting their own ball or hitting the same ball. Why don't they have a West of the Mississippi vs East of the Mississippi tournament? Or regional teams like the LLWS and format it like the recent LPGA Crown Tournament. Anything to promote doubles play.Rex wrote:I wonder why there aren't any positive lessons that can be taken from the President's Cup teams, who always win. It's the same players for the most part--what are they doing right there? I don't buy that the level of competition is that much worse--the internationals may have a few quirky guys but there are plenty of major winners there, just like the US and Euros.