The Swamp

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:42 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:38 pm The rangers are currently a middle six wing and bottom pair LD away from a complete roster and I have zero confidence Gallant can understand how to form those lines. Just an absolute mess in terms of refusing to nail 4th liners to the 4th line simply because they’re vets. More convinced than ever he’s a coach who improves a team but has a clear ceiling.

I think you're right about Gallant. But, don't bitch too much about your top-level team. It could be a lot worse (as some of us know too well.)

Hey, the Sharks won last ight!

And it's the regular season, play your 4th line as much as possible without losing too much.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:42 pmI think you're right about Gallant. But, don't bitch too much about your top-level team. It could be a lot worse (as some of us know too well.)

It’s more pre-bitching. We’ve got a half dozen kids who would easily go for 1st rounders plus that aren’t under contract and a truly fucked up cap. The only solve is a Panarin trade but I have no idea how they could go about finding one given his age, cap hit and movement clauses.

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:41 pm man, OT 4 on 4 for 10 minutes and a 3-2-1 point system and i'd never complain about the NHL again.




<fingers are crossed behind my back, ok, but still... not that hard>

Fuck. And yes.

Pheonix Copley is a name worthy of the Reggie Cleveland All-Stars.

4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

All I get is score updates on my phone and I can’t with that…

And a wing hit the griddy on skates!

rass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:10 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

All I get is score updates on my phone and I can’t with that…

Yeah, that somehow sounds worse.

Dude, ESPN+ is like 5 bucks a month. You get every non-nationally televised or locally televised game.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:26 pm

rass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:10 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

All I get is score updates on my phone and I can’t with that…

Yeah, that somehow sounds worse.

Dude, ESPN+ is like 5 bucks a month. You get every non-nationally televised or locally televised game.

It used to be the case that I got every NJ, NYR and NYI game on local TV. Add in the national games they played and 20-30 games was plenty for the number of opportunities I actually had to sit down and watch a full game.

Now my cable provider is in a years long dispute with MSG so even when I had ESPN+ last year all of those NJ/NY games were blacked out.

But yeah the push alerts were bad the last two games.

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:22 pm And a wing hit the griddy on skates!

Put respect on Jake Walman's name.

Because if you won't, who will?

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:24 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:42 pmI think you're right about Gallant. But, don't bitch too much about your top-level team. It could be a lot worse (as some of us know too well.)

It’s more pre-bitching. We’ve got a half dozen kids who would easily go for 1st rounders plus that aren’t under contract and a truly fucked up cap. The only solve is a Panarin trade but I have no idea how they could go about finding one given his age, cap hit and movement clauses.

I typically don't have the bandwidth to follow the Caps much until December and this year was no different. Even with the Ovi goal watch... Meh, it was inevitable he'd catch Gordie, so I wasn't tuning in much to see that climb.

When I did tune it at the beginning of the month, They were somewhere around 9th or 10th place in the Metro and things looked grim. 3ish weeks later and they are in a playoff spot and have rattled off 5 wins in a row and something like 10 of 11.

But, man... Talk about a team showing it's age. Backstrom, Wilson, Oshie and now Carlson all out with injuries. There are a slew of others, but those guys are obviously core.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:26 pm

rass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:10 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

All I get is score updates on my phone and I can’t with that…

Yeah, that somehow sounds worse.

Another good one tonight

We went to the Kraken-Oilers game last night. GF's daughter's new "Friend" is a former minor league/juniors hockey player (he played professionally in Germany for a few years before figuring out that he wasn't going to make it to the NHL) so it was his idea.

I may not know much about hockey, but I do know that giving up 3 goals in the first 4 minutes of the game is a bad thing (Oilers won 7-2). And giving Connor McDavid an open shot is not a good idea.

Still...a fun time...but wow, is going to a Kraken game expensive.

Montreal did not.want to be on the ice this afternoon. I mean even the DC fans went light on the hats when Ovi notches his 3rd as it was 8-2 at the time.

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 7:06 pm Montreal did not.want to be on the ice this afternoon. I mean even the DC fans went light on the hats when Ovi notches his 3rd as it was 8-2 at the time.

Seattle and Las Vegas to play in next year’s Winter Classic in Seattle.

brian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:57 pm Seattle and Las Vegas to play in next year’s Winter Classic in Seattle.

As long as this one starts by then.

At least we got some Bel Biv Devoe.

rass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:57 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:26 pm

rass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:10 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

All I get is score updates on my phone and I can’t with that…

Yeah, that somehow sounds worse.

Another good one tonight

!!!

Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:23 pm

rass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:57 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:26 pm

rass wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:10 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

All I get is score updates on my phone and I can’t with that…

Yeah, that somehow sounds worse.

Another good one tonight

!!!

Watching wasn't any better.

This seems weird to me. A couple years ago, this guy was a free agent in high demand. Lingering injury concerns? Is he a bad person? What?

$5.5M is a decent sized cap hit for a lot teams at this point in the season (even pro-rated down to about $2.75m at this point). Looking at CapFriendly there's only about half the league that could have claimed him without any kind of equal cap dump and most of those teams are trying to lose for lottery balls at this point.

There's just no room to make deals or sign players. I believe at least half the league (16 teams) are right up against the cap and even LTIR to make more space. Can't take these sorts of gambles for nothing. They will want to work on a deal with Detroit to get something back.

edit: beaten by Brian

The Wings are/were also facing a little bit of a roster crunch with Robby Fabbri returning from injury (and Tyler Bertuzzi close to the same) combined with some of their prospects (Joe Veleno, Jonatan Berggren - looks like he's not on the current roster, and Elmer Soderblom) playing well enough to merit consideration for sticking around the top club. Waiving Vrana right after extending his stint with Grand Rapids for conditioning to two weeks was a play at trying to sneak him and his salary ($5.25 mill cap hit this year and next) through after he spent two months in the players assistance program, especially since he's not ready to come back after three games.

There, in dsafe's last sentence, is what I imagine played a decent sized role here.

I've been rooting for Vrana, who was a fun young guy for the Caps when he got traded for Mantha.

But that salary, with an issue with injuries... And I know we're all supposed to ignore the Player Assistance stint, but... That's what the tweet is saying/not saying.

There has been some media reaction trying to put the Wings and Vrana at odds with each other, but this seems like a positive for Vrana.

He plays in a lower pressure environment until he's ready to play at the NHL level. Contract is the same. He's not uprooting his entire life while still dealing with whatever led to him entering the players assistance program.

It was a risk by the Red Wings, but a calculated one. They very possibly could have also had a long discussion with Vrana before putting him on waivers to explain everything, including the thought process that they didn't think he was going to get claimed because of his entire situation, and just kept it in-house.

World Juniors. US just came out and punched Canada in the face.

degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:14 pm World Juniors. US just came out and punched Canada in the face.

Well, that changed.

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:52 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:14 pm World Juniors. US just came out and punched Canada in the face.

Well, that changed.

I'm lucky then. It was 2-0 and shots were 12-2 when I posted.

no you were right, that 1st period or at least first 15 minutes was absolutely all USA.

the 2 goals taken away from USA were tough and that first one especially just sapped them.

Bedard wasn't even much of a factor but didn't matter

9 goal 2nd period in the 3rd place game. 5-5 after 2 periods.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

At least you don’t have to worry about blowing a 4-goal lead tonight!

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:43 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

At least you don’t have to worry about blowing a 4-goal lead tonight!

Right?

Ya know, I can clearly remember watching the Vegas game in Pittsburgh earlier this season and I think we actually came back from behind to win that but I recall the whole time thinking "Holy fuck this team is so much better than us."

Not wrong, apparently.

Jerloma wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:59 pm

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:43 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:09 pm 4-0, after 1. 4-5 after OT. I can't with this team.

At least you don’t have to worry about blowing a 4-goal lead tonight!

Right?

Ya know, I can clearly remember watching the Vegas game in Pittsburgh earlier this season and I think we actually came back from behind to win that but I recall the whole time thinking "Holy fuck this team is so much better than us."

Not wrong, apparently.

Vegas is lucky to have dudes coming back from injury. Losing Eichel or Stone or Pietrangelo for the playoffs would mean no way to win the Cup. But for now they’re getting healthy ar least.

Fun thing some of the local rinks are doing.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2 ... lishments/

Sharks are finally seeing the elite Erik Karlsson they traded for, but unfortunately it’s about 5 years too late.

Based on this clip...



...would you say this game took place in:

A.) A makeshift stadium set up in the ancestral Czech home of the Pastrnaks
B.) A Boston sportsbook where everyone had $50,000,000 on the hat trick prop
C.) Anaheim

Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:16 pm Based on this clip...



...would you say this game took place in:

A.) A makeshift stadium set up in the ancestral Czech home of the Pastrnaks
B.) A Boston sportsbook where everyone had $50,000,000 on the hat trick prop
C.) Anaheim

Cheer opponents hat tricks for Bedard!

Hey loma I think tonight’s game broke my phone

Brian, give me a positive scouting report on Jake Leschyshyn and you can't mention his dad having played.