2016 NFL Offseason Thread

Post by **brian** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:49 pm

Chiefs lose two draft picks for tampering last season (3rd rounder this year, 7th rounder next year).

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:54 pm

This is all I have to contribute to an NFL thread:

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:35 pm

brian wrote:Chiefs lose two draft picks for tampering last season (3rd rounder this year, 7th rounder next year).

Second pick is a sixth. Denying them the chance to get the Tom Brady of 2017.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:35 pm

brian wrote:Chiefs lose two draft picks for tampering last season (3rd rounder this year, 7th rounder next year).

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:44 pm

Douggy P seems like the kind of guy who destroys his phone for security purposes.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:12 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
brian wrote:Chiefs lose two draft picks for tampering last season (3rd rounder this year, 7th rounder next year).
Second pick is a sixth. Denying them the chance to get the Tom Brady of 2017.

Can I have your password so I can go on a "THE NFL IS ONLY PUNISHING US BECAUSE ITS US!!!!!!!" rant?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:18 pm

mister d wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
brian wrote:Chiefs lose two draft picks for tampering last season (3rd rounder this year, 7th rounder next year).
Second pick is a sixth. Denying them the chance to get the Tom Brady of 2017.
Can I have your password so I can go on a "THE NFL IS ONLY PUNISHING US BECAUSE ITS US!!!!!!!" rant?

oh man I really did miss my opportunity didn't I?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:20 pm

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:28 pm

The Broncos have reportedly traded for Mark Sanchez

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:44 pm

Sanchize winning a title would be awesome.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:01 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:The Broncos have reportedly traded for Mark Sanchez

My boss, a Broncos fan, screamed "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo."

I guess Kaep wants to keep his 12 million.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:18 pm

This quarterback situation in Denver is weird. Latest scuttlebutt here in the Bay Area (per sports talk radio) is that Kaepernick is favoring Cleveland as a destination. You read that correctly.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:22 pm

Like how Epstein picked the Cubs, except without any chance of succeeding.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:24 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:The Broncos have reportedly traded for Mark Sanchez

My boss, a Broncos fan, screamed "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo."

I guess Kaep wants to keep his 12 million.

so people legitimately think Sanchez is gonna be the starter in Denver. that's cute

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:26 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
Rush2112 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:The Broncos have reportedly traded for Mark Sanchez

My boss, a Broncos fan, screamed "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo."

I guess Kaep wants to keep his 12 million.
so people legitimately think Sanchez is gonna be the starter in Denver. that's cute

Yeah, there are still several better options available than Sanchez. They needed a backup, too.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:27 pm

sancarlos wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
Rush2112 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:The Broncos have reportedly traded for Mark Sanchez

My boss, a Broncos fan, screamed "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo."

I guess Kaep wants to keep his 12 million.
so people legitimately think Sanchez is gonna be the starter in Denver. that's cute
Yeah, there are still several better options available than Sanchez. They needed a backup, too.

Bingo. They weren't going with Trevor Siemian as the No. 2.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:30 pm

sancarlos wrote: Yeah, there are still several better options available than Sanchez. They needed a backup, too.

Well, currently the word is Fitzmagic wants to stay in NY and Kaep wants to go to the Browns, or perhaps the 9ers want to keep him.

Who's left RGIII, Hoyer,? ?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:31 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
sancarlos wrote: Yeah, there are still several better options available than Sanchez. They needed a backup, too.
Well, currently the word is Fitzmagic wants to stay in NY and Kaep wants to go to the Browns, or perhaps the 9ers want to keep him.

Who's left RGIII, Hoyer,? ?

Yeah, it's getting thinner. I'm thinking of trying out

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:36 pm

When I told Sabo that Kaepernick wanted to go to the Browns he said that's proof he has CTE. Kaep, not Sabo. Though I imagine he might have it too from all the banging his head on the desk messages he sends me.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:37 pm

I don't think Sanchez is thaaaaat bad. He gets in trouble when he tries to sling it around to make up a deficit, with the core of the defense in Denver he probably won't have to do that.

They do need a RB as well though. Wonder if they'll match the CJ offer or roll the dice with Foster (hands off Morris, I want him on the Pats.)

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:39 pm

A_B wrote:When I told Sabo that Kaepernick wanted to go to the Browns he said that's proof he has CTE. Kaep, not Sabo. Though I imagine he might have it too from all the banging his head on the desk messages he sends me.

I can understand it.

A lot less pressure, if he's even moderately successful they're erecting statues in his honor, and he doesn't have to restructure his contract.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:42 pm

Rush2112 wrote:I don't think Sanchez is thaaaaat bad. He gets in trouble when he tries to sling it around to make up a deficit, with the core of the defense in Denver he probably won't have to do that.

He certainly can't be worse than 2016 Manning. He also ran the Eagles offense a hell of a lot better than Bradford did last year.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:46 pm

A_B wrote:When I told Sabo that Kaepernick wanted to go to the Browns he said that's proof he has CTE. Kaep, not Sabo. Though I imagine he might have it too from all the banging his head on the desk messages he sends me.

Hue Jackson

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:53 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
A_B wrote:When I told Sabo that Kaepernick wanted to go to the Browns he said that's proof he has CTE. Kaep, not Sabo. Though I imagine he might have it too from all the banging his head on the desk messages he sends me.
Hue Jackson

Speaking of Hue, I read one report that speculated Hue would try to pry A.J. McCarron from Cincy. I wonder if Denver could talk the Bengals out of him.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:59 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
A_B wrote:When I told Sabo that Kaepernick wanted to go to the Browns he said that's proof he has CTE. Kaep, not Sabo. Though I imagine he might have it too from all the banging his head on the desk messages he sends me.
if he's even moderately successful they're erecting statues in his honor

Right next to the "Great Job!" plaque they got at Staples for Kelly Holcomb

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:44 pm

Rush2112 wrote:I don't think Sanchez is thaaaaat bad.

In relation to many other QBs out there, than no, he isn't outrageously bad.

But being as good as Brian Hoyer doesn't make him better than terrible.

And this just in - Johnny Football has been waived.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:24 pm

I think he's a much better QB than Hoyer. He did play in two AFCCG games after all.

Pruitt, thanks for 7-11 btw!

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:30 pm

Rush2112 wrote:I think he's a much better QB than Hoyer. He did play in two AFCCG games after all.

Rush2112 when talking about Peyton Manning's performance in the Super Bowl wrote:This win was the equivalent of a reliever coming in and throwing a passed ball that results in a runner getting thrown out at the plate for the final out.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:00 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
Rush2112 wrote:I think he's a much better QB than Hoyer. He did play in two AFCCG games after all.

Rush2112 when talking about Peyton Manning's performance in the Super Bowl wrote:This win was the equivalent of a reliever coming in and throwing a passed ball that results in a runner getting thrown out at the plate for the final out.

Sanchez was a tad better than Manning's SB performance in both those runs. 9/3 TD to INT and a 60% completion percentage, but good job looking that up buddy!

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:09 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
Rush2112 wrote:I think he's a much better QB than Hoyer. He did play in two AFCCG games after all.

Rush2112 when talking about Peyton Manning's performance in the Super Bowl wrote:This win was the equivalent of a reliever coming in and throwing a passed ball that results in a runner getting thrown out at the plate for the final out.
Sanchez was a tad better than Manning's SB performance in both those runs. 9/3 TD to INT and a 60% completion percentage, but good job looking that up buddy!

you're missing the point that you can't argue conference title game appearances as a guide for quarterback value if you're willing to argue the opposite when it comes to the Super Bowl win of a quarterback and franchise you dislike

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:39 pm

The Broncos have their new quarterback.

“BREAKING NEWS: The Denver Broncos sign veteran quarterback, Uncle Rico, from Idaho. VP of Football operations and General Manager, John Elway said, “The guy can throw a football over them Rocky Mountains.”

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:56 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
you're missing the point that you can't argue conference title game appearances as a guide for quarterback value if you're willing to argue the opposite when it comes to the Super Bowl win of a quarterback and franchise you dislike

There's no point to miss. Sanchez wasn't a detriment to his team when they went to those AFCCGs. Manning had 1 good drive in the Super Bowl, and what 12 straight three and outs? (and guess what I don't like either franchise or QB all the much, better make a note of that for your future reference.)

No idea why you feel the need to grade points I make, it's an Internet discussion board for christ's sake

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:57 pm

sancarlos wrote:The Broncos have their new quarterback.
“BREAKING NEWS: The Denver Broncos sign veteran quarterback, Uncle Rico, from Idaho. VP of Football operations and General Manager, John Elway said, “The guy can throw a football over them Rocky Mountains.”

That was a great quote from Sanders. Really wish the Steelers hadn't matched the Pats offer a few years back, love the guy.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:01 pm

Here's hoping he can regain his '82 form.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:13 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
There's no point to miss. Sanchez wasn't a detriment to his team when they went to those AFCCGs. Manning had 1 good drive in the Super Bowl, and what 12 straight three and outs? (and guess what I don't like either franchise or QB all the much, better make a note of that for your future reference.)

*makes highly exaggerated statement that's not even close to the truth*

No idea why you feel the need to grade points I make, it's an Internet discussion board for christ's sake

*don't tell me I'm not being rational!*

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:27 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: *makes highly exaggerated statement that's not even close to the truth*

Ah, yes misremembering it was 13 straight missed 3rd down conversions. 1-14 on 3rd down. 11 drives of ten or less yards, 7 of those being 3 and outs outs, complete changes his crappy ass performance to one for the ages indeed!

I can see how not exactly remembering shitty ass stats insults your journalistic integrity.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:32 pm

Agreed, it's just a message board. If someone wants to make stuff up to support an argument, it's a total dick move to call that out.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:32 pm

Rush2112 wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote: *makes highly exaggerated statement that's not even close to the truth*
Ah, yes misremembering it was 13 straight missed 3rd down conversions. 1-14 on 3rd down. 11 drives of ten or less yards, 7 of those being 3 and outs outs, complete changes his crappy ass performance to one for the ages indeed!

Rush2112 wrote:Manning had 1 good drive in the Super Bowl, and what 12 straight three and outs?

I am thisclose to thinking you're intentionally being obtuse to back up your previous statement that you don't have to find proof for your message board facts, because I'm really not sure how else you can try to claim that 12 straight three and outs = 13 failed third down conversions.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:35 pm

mister d wrote:Agreed, it's just a message board. If someone wants to make stuff up to support an argument, it's a total dick move to call that out.

you beat me to it! /waits for post to be ...ed ever so slightly

one of the reasons this place has been great over the years is because people make cogent arguments. I apologize for wanting to keep that standard. you all have the right to call me out for making shit up out of thin air, but perhaps the reason you don't see that happen all that often is because I don't have a tendency to do it.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:59 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
I am thisclose to thinking you're intentionally being obtuse to back up your previous statement that you don't have to find proof for your message board facts, because I'm really not sure how else you can try to claim that 12 straight three and outs = 13 failed third down conversions.

Not sure what's being 'obtuse' about stating something was misremembered, and actually written in a way that one could infer that it was from memory. When someone states "something like 12 3 and outs" that reads to you like a fact that's been fact checked 5 times and has as many citations?

I REMEMBER the announcers saying that they had set a record for third down ineptitude, sorry that it insults you that my memory isn't perfect.

Again, if you have problems with the things I say you have no obligation to respond to them, you can even use the ignore function on the board like so many have done with Mr. Troll (not counting the people that don't come here anymore because of his being an asshole.) I come here to discuss things because I'm stuck behind a desk and like to talk about a multitude of things, I don't treat it like a dissertation and sometimes go by my recollection of things. I do enough research in my professional life, and I choose not to spend my recreation time doing the same. If you don't like the way I say things then act like we're in a bar and turn your back and strike out with that girl next to you.