Am I sad that Welker left? Yes. Am I disappointed that he signed with our most likely opponent for a return to the Super Bowl? Yes.
I also think that there is something behind the scene that was pushing him out the door before he even became a FA, and I am very trustworthy of the Patriot FO and their ability to know what a player's value is and if they are about to trend downwards.
They might not have the best drafting record for WR, but they sure as hell know how valuable a player is for their offense as compared to their value on other teams.
I don't know if Welker is getting gun shy after taking too many hits over the middle, his hands are wearing out from to many catches, or what, but he beginning to drop more passes than he should, especially at big points in games. If you have a chance to replace him with a much younger clone then why wouldn't you?
Grasspenis wrote:
Aren't you pretty much judging Amendola entirely from what you are seeing on football-reference?
If you guarantee that he's a clone, hell yeah I take that. Butttt I don't think Amendola is anything special.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:21 pm
by Test Ride the Sybian
Weatherfrog wrote:Matt Hasselbeck is now available. Takers?
I'll take him over the rest of the crap the Jets are holding on to.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:43 pm
by Rush2112
Which is exactly what people said about Welker before he came to Foxboro.
Grasspenis wrote:If you guarantee that he's a clone, hell yeah I take that. Butttt I don't think Amendola is anything special.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:05 pm
by Johnnie
My late thoughts on Welker and Amendola: I hated it. From top to bottom. Amendola doesn't do anything for me. And that contract they gave him? Meh.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:23 pm
by Rush2112
It's a very team friendly contract. What's meh about it? He gets hurt, doesn't pan out, they aren't out big bucks or anything.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:36 pm
by Johnnie
Showing the 5 year commitment is meh. (Even though years on NFL contracts don't mean anything.) It gives the impression that he's a long term acquisition. He isn't. I bet he doesn't make it past year 3. And if that's the case, just give Welker 3 years.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:19 pm
by Rush2112
Amendola's contract is very low in guaranteed money. At the end of that contract he'll be a year older then Welker is now.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:27 pm
by sancarlos
Per Pro Football Talk/NBC Sports:
Amendola did get a $6 million signing bonus, and has $4 million worth of base salary guarantees (this year’s $2 million and $2 million of next year’s scheduled $3 million base).
He also has base salaries of $4 million, $5 million and $6 million in 2015 through 2017.
The deal also includes per-game roster bonuses of $31,250 in each of the five years of the deal. If he plays all 16, he’d make an extra $500,000 per year, for a total of $2.5 million.
The only problem is, Amendola’s played 16 games exactly once in four NFL seasons, and has missed 20 games the last two years, making the full balance of the deal as originally stated hard to imagine.
Correction then. He's playing 2 years then he's either released or the deal is renegotiated.
Why does the NFL even bother having contracts that players will never fulfill?
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:39 am
by FredRomero
Johnnie wrote:Correction then. He's playing 2 years then he's either released or the deal is renegotiated.
Why does the NFL even bother having contracts that players will never fulfill?
They help owners make lots of money?
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:45 am
by Gunpowder
Rush2112 wrote:Which is exactly what people said about Welker before he came to Foxboro.
Grasspenis wrote:If you guarantee that he's a clone, hell yeah I take that. Butttt I don't think Amendola is anything special.
When they called him an underrated playmaker?
But, yeah. By this logic, they need to draft a QB in the 6th.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:47 am
by Gunpowder
Chad Jackson is younger than Welker, sign him back.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:41 am
by mister d
Grasspenis wrote:When they called him an underrated playmaker?
But, yeah. By this logic, they need to draft a QB in the 6th.
The Jets made Garrard sign a pledge that he would become an alcoholic and try to kiss a reporter on TV sometime after 2040.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:41 am
by BSF21
Weatherfrog wrote:Matt Hasselbeck is now available. Takers?
Pretty heavy rumors that he is coming to Indy to be AL's backup.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:50 am
by Rush2112
and signed.
BSF21 wrote:Pretty heavy rumors that he is coming to Indy to be AL's backup.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:01 pm
by kranepool
Ed Reed to Texans.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:10 am
by Sabo
Pacman Jones wrote on Twitter that he has re-signed with the Bengals for three years.
I think the Bengals are the only team that hasn't signed a player from another team.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:40 am
by kranepool
Dallas hasn't done shit either.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:12 am
by testy boxcar
ditto green bay
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:31 am
by mister d
Unless Garrard had a team at his house, I think the Jets are on the list too.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:40 am
by The Sybian
mister d wrote:Unless Garrard had a team at his house, I think the Jets are on the list too.
Jets picked up Mike Goodson.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:12 am
by Steve of phpBB
The Chicago papers are reporting that Brian Urlacher has given up on re-signing with the Bears.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:53 am
by DSafetyGuy
Steve of phpBB wrote:The Chicago papers are reporting that Brian Urlacher has given up on re-signing with the Bears.
He wanted two years, $12 million, but the Bears (who are pretty close to against the cap and have to deal with Cutler's free agency next year) gave him a one year, $2 million offer. I wouldn't rule out an eventual return, just because the free agency market is so soft.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:56 am
by rass
DSafetyGuy wrote:
Steve of phpBB wrote:The Chicago papers are reporting that Brian Urlacher has given up on re-signing with the Bears.
He wanted two years, $12 million, but the Bears (who are pretty close to against the cap and have to deal with Cutler's free agency next year) gave him a one year, $2 million offer. I wouldn't rule out an eventual return, just because the free agency market is so soft.
He sounded pretty pissed in the audio I heard this morning. Basically said "if I play for $2MM, it won't be for the Bears".
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:00 pm
by A_B
That's explicitly what he said.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:02 pm
by DSafetyGuy
In that case, I wish him well in his quest to stay healthy.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:15 pm
by mister d
They should sign a younger albeit more injury prone and less productive white replacement for a higher AAV.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:18 pm
by SlimChristian
Pollard signs with TN.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:32 pm
by mister d
New England does not play Tennessee : (
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:18 pm
by Sabo
Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer said the Browns brought in the guy below for a visit but it's unlikely they'll sign him.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:37 pm
by brian
Yeah, Lions worked him out a month ago too. He's had a few tryouts with different teams. He's working with a big-time kicking coach. He might get a shot somewhere.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:06 pm
by SlimChristian
Ravens sign Dumervil! Ozzie Newsome is a fucking genius.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:29 pm
by The Burglar
Sabo wrote:Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer said the Browns brought in the guy below for a visit but it's unlikely they'll sign him.
Is Wolfert still on the roster?
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:22 am
by Johnnie
SlimChristian wrote:Ravens sign Dumervil! Ozzie Newsome is a fucking genius.
So a paperwork SNAFU forced the Broncos to release him even after he decided to take a pay cut and he ends up with Baltimore because they were able to offer more than the pay cut he was agreeing to? Why didn't he just not agree to the pay cut in the first place? Good faith? Good business? That entire sequence played out weirdly.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:25 am
by Scottie
Johnnie wrote:Good faith? Good business?
Fucked up agent that may have got lucky?
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:27 am
by Johnnie
I guess. It just seems that if Dumervil wanted to stay with Denver he would have, dumbass agent or not though. To just jump to Baltimore like that says something else was there that gave him motive to leave.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:30 am
by Scottie
Elvis Kool does what Elvis Kool wants.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:35 am
by SlimChristian
Scottie wrote:
Johnnie wrote:Good faith? Good business?
Fucked up agent that may have got lucky?
He fired the agent that fucked up.
Re: NFL Free Agency
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:43 am
by SlimChristian
Johnnie wrote:I guess. It just seems that if Dumervil wanted to stay with Denver he would have, dumbass agent or not though. To just jump to Baltimore like that says something else was there that gave him motive to leave.
The contract they offered him after they released him wasn't the same deal he was supposed to sign before he was released. His release cost the Broncos 5 million in dead money. From what I've read/heard, the new deal the Broncos offered him, gave him a lot less $ in the second and third year of the deal than what THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPION BALTIMORE RAVENS were offering. He also has a relationship with THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPION BALTIMORE RAVENS' LB coach, Wink Martindale. Apparently, Harbaugh and Suggs were also giving him a hard sell on coming here. He's a great upgrade over Kruger, and his cap hit for next season is about 2.4 million.
Now, if Ozzie can rebuild the defensive backfield and ILB crew and get another WR. We should be fine.