The Swamp

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:51 pm**

And if they hang on and win this game, in the next round they play the University of Florida Golfers.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:58 pm**

I don't understand how the tactical genius of Steve Fisher has not managed to adjust to FGCU. Gulf or Golf.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:03 pm**

Ooooop! It's impossible not to love the way this FGCU team plays. A joy to watch. One Billy Donovan better take these guys a whole lot of serious.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:05 pm**

Who are these guys? This is spectacular!

Scottie wrote:Ooooop! It's impossible not to love the way this FGCU team plays. A joy to watch. One Billy Donovan better take these guys a whole lot of serious.

Yup that game is on Friday at Cowboys Stadium! I think they'll be just a little pumped for that.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:11 pm**

These guys might have taken over my Missouri Valley (Wichita State, Creighton) bandwagon.

I love how much fun they are having. It's like hearing a band for the first time that you know is going to be your favorite for a long run.

I just hope they don't get caught up in the inevitable press praise. Don't believe the hype! If they stay grounded and loose like they are today, they'll fucking anyone.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:15 pm**

The good thing about this is that the University of Florida will now have to explain why it is not on ANY coast.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:16 pm**

Loved what Franklin did there. Congratulated Brown and pounded his chest.. "You go win this fucking thing now"

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:28 pm**

Teaching America how to pronounce "Cvjeticanin".

normalasian wrote:Loved what Franklin did there. Congratulated Brown and pounded his chest.. "You go win this fucking thing now"

That was solid. Very solid.

Looking back at their season, they seem to play to the level of their opponents. They get up for big games; FGCU actually beat Miami The U back in November.

This current run, of course, is another story all together.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:05 pm**

C'mon, LaSalle; smarter LaPossessions and smarter LaShot selections.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:17 pm**

howard wrote:I don't understand how the tactical genius of Steve Fisher has not managed to adjust to FGCU. Gulf or Golf.

Well, you are talking about the guy who didn't stop his guys from chucking three-pointers on a windy day on an aircraft carrier.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:19 pm**

La Salle's coach always looks like he's grinding out a dookie.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:22 pm**

LaSalle eventually rewarded for a great defensive turn. OT coming methinks.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:24 pm**

Wow, big time drive, disdaining the big man. And getting Henderson the fuck out of this March, thank you for that.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:24 pm**

Mister D, I have a friend who has tickets he is trying to sell for Thursday and Saturday next week. He is holding them for me on your behalf, if you want them.

Thoughts?

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:28 pm**

Great LaSalle win. Marshall Henderson can now go back to his mommy's basement, don a grey hoodie to cover his face and stand in front of a mirror while lip-syncing Eminem's Lose Yourself into a sock.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:32 pm**

I really hope Mister D has survived this evening.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:59 pm**

Safe to assume I'm the only one here who had their best NCAA experience happen today?

(DSafe, thanks and I'd love to, but there's no room in the move budget for that sort of trip. And I'd jinx it if I did.)

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:05 pm**

mister d wrote:Safe to assume I'm the only one here who had their best NCAA experience happen today?

(DSafe, thanks and I'd love to, but there's no room in the move budget for that sort of trip. And I'd jinx it if I did.)

I figured that would be the case, but he mentioned trying to unload them last night and I figured I'd see if he could put a 24-hour hold on them. He likely won't have any issues selling them, anyway, since tOSU and Arizona are out here, as well as two mid-major schools who haven't advanced this far in a long time (Wichita State in 2006 and your guys in 1955 - I had no idea it was that long).

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:09 pm**

And Illinois gets completely fucked by a hideously terrible call.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:15 pm**

Fuck, I hate seeing a game decided by idiotic refs. And, yes, there is an enormous difference between Illinois being tied (or up one) and being down four, with less than a minute to play. That was disgraceful; not even a close call, really.

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:46 pm**

Scottie wrote:Fuck, I hate seeing a game decided by idiotic refs. And, yes, there is an enormous difference between Illinois being tied (or up one) and being down four, with less than a minute to play. That was disgraceful; not even a close call, really.

Yeah, and there was a very similar missed call at the end of one of the other games today, maybe tOSU - ISU?

Posted: **Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:58 pm**

I don't think you can fault the officials for the OSU call (though the studio crew did). It was an incredibly close play, and even on review it looked to barely be conclusive. Not egregious at all, in my estimation.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:09 am**

I only tangentially follow college basketball, and really only the University of Arizona. So, awesome Sweet 16 berth for them.

Also, this happened:

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:25 am**

That answers at least two questions. (1) Who is the University of Arizona band's bead player? And (2) Why shouldn't fat guys attempt butt rolls?

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:21 am**

Johnny Hotcakes wrote:I don't think you can fault the officials for the OSU call (though the studio crew did). It was an incredibly close play, and even on review it looked to barely be conclusive. Not egregious at all, in my estimation.

Yeah, I actually thought they were both close and both probably wrong. It happens though, particularly late in the game when guys are lunging at rebounds.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:21 am**

Deadspin created a video of all of Florida Gulf Coast's postseason dunks. It's impressive, to say the least.

http://deadspin.com/dunk-city-heres-all ... -458654269" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:22 am**

Hey Mountain West Conference! If you really want to be considered one of the big boy conferences, you can't completely miss the Sweet Sixteen.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:40 am**

I've seen that a bunch of places, saying the BCS is proven better because the Mountain West and A-10 combined for 10 bids and 1 Sweet 16 team, but it sort of ignores that those two conferences only had two teams seeded 1-4. They underperformed by 1. Big East had 4 teams 1-4 and passed 3 into the Sweet 16. They underperformed by 1.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:42 am**

Sabo wrote:Deadspin created a video of all of Florida Gulf Coast's postseason dunks. It's impressive, to say the least.

http://deadspin.com/dunk-city-heres-all ... -458654269" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That was fabulous. In the final minute last night Comer stole the ball and went in on a breakaway but just put in a lay-up.
Len Elmore said "If Comer had thrown that down, I would have thrown in the towel!"

If I hadn't watched the games, I would have assumed that a #15 winning twice was because of incrediblly hot 3-point shooting. But these guys are really athletic and have run both of their opponents out of the building.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:07 am**

It's weird that they are dunking on everybody yet, if you moved the rims up to 10'4", none of them look like they'd be able to dunk.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:10 am**

mister d wrote:I've seen that a bunch of places, saying the BCS is proven better because the Mountain West and A-10 combined for 10 bids and 1 Sweet 16 team, but it sort of ignores that those two conferences only had two teams seeded 1-4. They underperformed by 1. Big East had 4 teams 1-4 and passed 3 into the Sweet 16. They underperformed by 1.

I don't think we're grading on a curve here. All year, the talk has been about how the Mountain West was better than most of the power conferences this year. Weren't they the number 1 conference according to the RPI? When a power conference misses the Sweet Sixteen, it's notable. If you're trying to establish yourself as a major player, it's kind of a big deal.

I didn't hear such talk about the A-10, but maybe it was out there too.

BTW, my criticism is less of the MWC or A10 than of the various media folk who love to jump on the new hotness. Consistently performing at the highest levels is HARD. It doesn't happen overnight.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:23 am**

My point is we should be grading on a curve. The Big East is 6-5 as a conference and has three Sweet 16 teams, but that should be seen as a disappointment for a conference given four top 4 bids, two more in the 5-8 range and two below. 10-4 with four teams still alive was the expectation out of that seeding and they underperformed it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:30 am**

Most who touted the MWC's #1 RPI rating also mentioned that because it has a smaller number of teams, there isn't a ton of dreck at the bottom to bring it down.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:06 pm**

mister d wrote:My point is we should be grading on a curve. The Big East is 6-5 as a conference and has three Sweet 16 teams, but that should be seen as a disappointment for a conference given four top 4 bids, two more in the 5-8 range and two below. 10-4 with four teams still alive was the expectation out of that seeding and they underperformed it.

I see that as two different conversations.

One is simply overall strength. The Big Ten was perceived by most as the top conference this year, and getting 4 teams in the Sweet 16 is confirmation of that. Even if they'd only gotten three, which is fewer than their seeds should have warranted, they still would be the strongest league left.

How a conference performs relative to expectations, high or low, is a different thing. In this argument, weak leagues pretty much can't lose and it's very hard for power conferences to win (you can't overperform as a 1 seed). It's a good argument to have, but it really only makes sense when you're comparing leagues with comparable seeds.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:24 pm**

What's weirder, that Doug McDermott's NCAA career has eclipsed that of Harrison Barnes, or that Brett Comer's NCAA career has eclipsed Austin Rivers'?

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:27 pm**

I think the MWC deserves some accolades. It's top isn't at the level of the Big Ten or Big East, but it's bottom is stronger than the majority of conferences. And anyway, judging on the basis of a small sample of games is similar to judging a baseball or hockey team that had a very fine regular season but lost in the playoffs. Any sabermetrics guy will note that this happens regularly.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:29 pm**

sancarlos wrote:I think the MWC deserves some accolades. It's top isn't at the level of the Big Ten or Big East, but it's bottom is stronger than the majority of conferences. And anyway, judging on the basis of a small sample of games is similar to judging a baseball or hockey team that had a very fine regular season but lost in the playoffs. Any sabermetrics guy will note that this happens regularly.

MWC: The Jennifer Lopez of Conferences.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:28 pm**

sancarlos wrote:And anyway, judging on the basis of a small sample of games is similar to judging a baseball or hockey team that had a very fine regular season but lost in the playoffs. Any sabermetrics guy will note that this happens regularly.

Its true, but there's the problem of never having a good sample size in college basketball. Schedules are too divergent during the regular season and rosters turn over so you can't really aggregate years, so the tourney is the best snapshot you're going to get.

(And, if you did want to aggregate years, you'd see the Big East consistently underperforms their seed.)

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:38 am**

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