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Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:34 am
by bfj
Sabo wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:19 am This is an old story, but I still found it interesting.

Great white sharks are completely terrified of orcas
It’s the creamy filling in the middle the orcas like.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by Pruitt
Bees in Arizona Sting Man To Death
Bee swarms are a relatively common and sometimes dangerous occurrence in Arizona. In 2015, for example, one man survived 500 to 1,000 stings after disturbing a hive. Months later, six people were injured in another swarm.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:10 pm
by bfj

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:24 pm
by Gunpowder
Those murder hornets kill like almost 100 people a year in Japan (or something non-zero).

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:25 pm
by Johnnie
Gunpowder wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:24 pm Those murder hornets kill like almost 100 people a year in Japan (or something non-zero).
Man, those things came and fucking went in the early pandemic times, didn't they? What a distraction. Thanks, Big Media!

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:35 pm
by serrano
Johnnie wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:25 pm
Gunpowder wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:24 pm Those murder hornets kill like almost 100 people a year in Japan (or something non-zero).
Man, those things came and fucking went in the early pandemic times, didn't they? What a distraction. Thanks, Big Media!
Or maybe they assassinated everyone who was reporting on them, did you ever think of that, Johnnie? Talk about military unintelligence, amirite?

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:27 am
by tennbengal
That's a whole lotta calm, really...


Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:46 pm
by EnochRoot
As crazy as it sounds, he's actually doing what they tell you to do (he's likely uncapping the bear spray in his pocket/holster, too).

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:54 pm
by The Sybian
EnochRoot wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:46 pm As crazy as it sounds, he's actually doing what they tell you to do (he's likely uncapping the bear spray in his pocket/holster, too).
I thought he handled it like a champ, I would have soiled myself. Is shitting yourself going to attract the bears or will the smell put them off? I could see that going either way, but the smell from a terror shit from encountering a giant bear is more likely going to make the bear run away in horror.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:16 pm
by EnochRoot
The Sybian wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:54 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:46 pm As crazy as it sounds, he's actually doing what they tell you to do (he's likely uncapping the bear spray in his pocket/holster, too).
I thought he handled it like a champ, I would have soiled myself. Is shitting yourself going to attract the bears or will the smell put them off? I could see that going either way, but the smell from a terror shit from encountering a giant bear is more likely going to make the bear run away in horror.
Oh no doubt. TBH, the fact he didn't mace the bear made me think it might be a deep-fake video. Cuz a bear in that proximity? They say to bust out the spray and aim above its head once he heads towards you and gets within 20-ish feet. That bear was inside of 10 feet, albeit walking perpendicularly to him.

Man. The Great NW aint that cool.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:27 pm
by tennbengal
He handled it spectacularly. I am also impressed by the calmness of those with him. To say the least. That was a BIG bear.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:34 pm
by P.D.X.
EnochRoot wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:16 pm They say to bust out the spray and aim above its head once he heads towards you and gets within 20-ish feet.
If charging. This guy read the bear's body language very well. (Also Alaskan browns are known for not being terribly interested in ppl. Just stay out of their way and you're good.)

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:32 pm
by Steve of phpBB
This was cool rather than horrifying, but we had an awesome moose visitation today.


Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:15 pm
by tennbengal
Don't fuck with moose. This bit isn't far off...


Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:24 pm
by EnochRoot
Yeah...Moose sound like haunted cows mooing.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:54 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Believe me, I am well aware that moose bites Kan be pretti nasti.

We were looking down on the moose from the safety of our deck.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:59 pm
by sancarlos
Pretty cool, Steve (as long as you were safe!)

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:54 pm
by Shirley
Looks like he has some headphones. What do moose listen to? Norwegian death metal? The Tragically Hip?

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:58 pm
by sancarlos
Shirley wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:54 pm Looks like he has some headphones. What do moose listen to? Norwegian death metal? The Tragically Hip?
Ha!

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:04 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Shirley wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:54 pm Looks like he has some headphones. What do moose listen to? Norwegian death metal? The Tragically Hip?
No idea why, but that one moose has had a radio collar for a few years. There are others in the area, but I don't think any of them have collars.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:55 am
by Pruitt

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:03 am
by Steve of phpBB
Wildfire in Parleys Canyon, east of Salt Lake City: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/08/14/ ... ire-shuts/

This was my view driving back to our summer cabin around 3 in the afternoon (before the evac orders).

Our place is about a mile in front of that ridgeline. At the time, the fire was burning less than a mile on the other side of the ridge, but there is nothing between the fire and the top of the ridge except dry forest and brush, with lots of dead trees from a beetle infestation. This is the general layout - the cabin is the northernmost pin in the google map photo.



By the time the evacuation order came an hour later, we were already on our way out. Luckily we were able to gather the cats quickly.

And even more luckily for us, we were able to just drive down to our house less than a half hour away in SLC. Most of the other houses up there are permanent homes, so people had to find somewhere to go or shelter at the local high school.

The latest word is that the fire growth had slowed, but it was still growing and still uncontained. (I actually don't think it'll breach that ridge and get into Summit Park, but I guess you never know.) We were told to expect the evacuation to be at least 24-48 hours.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:36 am
by tennbengal
Still holding thoughts steve.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:02 am
by Steve of phpBB
tennbengal wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:36 am Still holding thoughts steve.
Thanks, TB. It’s “only” a summer home. But I fucking love it and really don’t want it to burn.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:36 pm
by Steve of phpBB
The fire doesn’t appear to be doing much today. Thank jahd.


Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 pm
by Pruitt
Praying for rain.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:54 am
by Steve of phpBB
Pruitt wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 pm Praying for rain.
Thanks.

No rain, but probably even more luckily, there hasn't been much wind either.

This morning's infrared data shows no real movement toward the east (Summit Park and eventually Timberline, where my summer home is).


My place is on Cedar Way, on the north edge of the snip, about halfway between the middle and the eastern edge. My place looks pretty safe, but it'd really suck if the fire made it into Summit Park, not just for the people living there, but also because it's a beautiful wooded view, which we don't get a lot of here in Utah.

And this video is pretty fucking cool:

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:22 pm
by Pruitt
That video is amazing.

Shit like that makes me feel like a 10 year old again.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:11 am
by Steve of phpBB
Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:54 am No rain, but probably even more luckily, there hasn't been much wind either.
Dammit. Storm coming in today with high winds forecast, so the mandatory evacuation has been extended until Thursday night.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:29 pm
by Steve of phpBB
OK, this has to be good news.


Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:55 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Apparently it was.



Pruitt, your rain prayers worked. Thanks.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:58 pm
by tennbengal
excellent news. good deal, steve.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:30 am
by Pruitt
Good stuff!

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:12 am
by rass
Good to (read)

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:22 am
by Steve of phpBB
Thanks, All.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:38 am
by Shirley
Good job, Pruitt

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:12 am
by degenerasian
I've got a wasp problem. They built a nest by the eavesthrough and through the siding into the insulation. I found the hole they were flying out of and sprayed wasp-repelent into it and plugged the hole 10 days ago with peppermint-laced cotton balls. So now they can't fly out to get food.


Problem now of course it that they now fly one by one into the house, through vents and light fixtures. So it's an ongoing war. Any solutions?

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:16 am
by A_B
degenerasian wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:12 am I've got a wasp problem. They built a nest by the eavesthrough and through the siding into the insulation. I found the hole they were flying out of and sprayed wasp-repelent into it and plugged the hole 10 days ago with peppermint-laced cotton balls. So now they can't fly out to get food.


Problem now of course it that they now fly one by one into the house, through vents and light fixtures. So it's an ongoing war. Any solutions?
Well it sounds like they either have to all die off or you have to take some siding off to get to the whole nest. I'd recommend calling an exterminator, personally. Wasp nests are no joke.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:18 am
by The Sybian
degenerasian wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:12 am I've got a wasp problem. They built a nest by the eavesthrough and through the siding into the insulation. I found the hole they were flying out of and sprayed wasp-repelent into it and plugged the hole 10 days ago with peppermint-laced cotton balls. So now they can't fly out to get food.


Problem now of course it that they now fly one by one into the house, through vents and light fixtures. So it's an ongoing war. Any solutions?
Just burn the house down, collect insurance, and start over. I imagine you can't be too far off from the first cold snap that will kill them all off, but if they are trapped in the house, maybe the won't die? Call an exterminator.

Re: Nature is Horrifying

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:55 am
by Nonlinear FC
Absolutely burn the dough on an exterminator.

This is one for the professionals.