MLB Postseason 2022: ‘Stros vs. Phightins

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:27 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:54 pm Typical Toronto playoffs.

That was a Browns-level loss.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:28 pm

Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:27 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:54 pm Typical Toronto playoffs.
That was a Browns-level loss.

Browns don't have playoff losses

Pruitt3 · Post by **Pruitt3** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:33 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:28 pm
Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:27 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:54 pm Typical Toronto playoffs.
That was a Browns-level loss.
Browns don't have playoff losses

Back to back years with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:35 pm

Wait a damn second here. Yadi is a top catcher and I’m on his side for Cooperstown, especially since catchers are relatively underrepresented. But this first-ballot talk has got to stop.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:18 pm

The Molina shit is dumb. If you want to say you believe he’s the best defensive C of an era and that’s enough to cover for a mediocre bat, whatever, but in that world guys like Andruw and Rolen would have to be near unanimous selections.

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:05 pm

Harper was safe, but you can't give up outs on the basepaths in the postseason. Especially whatever that debacle was at the end of the inning.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:56 pm

That’s for 2011!

cerranoredux · Post by **cerranoredux** » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:59 pm

Everybody hits! Woohoo!

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:38 am

mister d wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:18 pm The Molina shit is dumb. If you want to say you believe he’s the best defensive C of an era and that’s enough to cover for a mediocre bat, whatever, but in that world guys like Andruw and Rolen would have to be near unanimous selections.

C'mon now, Yadi was a full 0.5 WAR better than Jason Kendall!

He basically had two really great seasons, and then a few pretty good ones. Even after those two great seasons, though, his career OPS+ never even reached 100.

He was good defensively and he played a long time and the Cards were really good during his career (only one losing season, and that was 78-84). If that's good enough for the Hall, then every Yankee who has played in the last 100 years has a claim.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:18 pm

If you think they aren’t putting at least 2/3 of their dudes in at the same time you’re nuts! I wager it’s Molina an pujols and wainwright misses.

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:29 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:38 am
mister d wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:18 pm The Molina shit is dumb. If you want to say you believe he’s the best defensive C of an era and that’s enough to cover for a mediocre bat, whatever, but in that world guys like Andruw and Rolen would have to be near unanimous selections.
C'mon now, Yadi was a full 0.5 WAR better than Jason Kendall!

He basically had two really great seasons, and then a few pretty good ones. Even after those two great seasons, though, his career OPS+ never even reached 100.

He was good defensively and he played a long time and the Cards were really good during his career (only one losing season, and that was 78-84). If that's good enough for the Hall, then every Yankee who has played in the last 100 years has a claim.

Yadier Molina is not a Hall of Famer. Heh.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:47 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:18 pm If you think they aren’t putting at least 2/3 of their dudes in at the same time you’re nuts! I wager it’s Molina an pujols and wainwright misses.

Pujols is probably the closest to missing out of the three because of the whispers.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:56 pm

Reaper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:29 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:38 am
mister d wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:18 pm The Molina shit is dumb. If you want to say you believe he’s the best defensive C of an era and that’s enough to cover for a mediocre bat, whatever, but in that world guys like Andruw and Rolen would have to be near unanimous selections.
C'mon now, Yadi was a full 0.5 WAR better than Jason Kendall!

He basically had two really great seasons, and then a few pretty good ones. Even after those two great seasons, though, his career OPS+ never even reached 100.

He was good defensively and he played a long time and the Cards were really good during his career (only one losing season, and that was 78-84). If that's good enough for the Hall, then every Yankee who has played in the last 100 years has a claim.
Yadier Molina is not a Hall of Famer. Heh.

The quantification attempt to justify a player like Yadier Molina getting into the Hall was done by Bill James, and his Hall of Fame Monitor. Without it, he falls way, way short. With it, he's got a puncher's chance.

Post by **brian** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:24 pm

Lou Whitaker - who is too 100 in THE MFING HISTORY OF BASeBALL in WAR is still not in the Hall of Fame. So yeah. Fuck Yadiet Molina

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:32 pm

Salvador Perez has just as good an argument for the HoF as Molina and I don't think there are many Royals fans who are convinced he's a Hall of Famer

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:05 pm

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:26 am

Me: hearing that Musgrove's spin rate was up last night - "huh"

Also me: I wonder how they know anyone's spin rate.

Also also me: Must be someone with replay on SUPER DUPER SLOW MO counting the times the ball goes over.

Also also also me: but how can they count that - like, how to they know it has done a revolution

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:35 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:26 am Me: hearing that Musgrove's spin rate was up last night - "huh"

Also me: I wonder how they know anyone's spin rate.

Also also me: Must be someone with replay on SUPER DUPER SLOW MO counting the times the ball goes over.

Also also also me: but how can they count that - like, how to they know it has done a revolution

I assume it has something similar to automated golf trainers. Somewhere there is a camera(S) that tracks the movement in multiple planes.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:37 am

No, AB was right. The counters are usually poll workers who don’t have anything to do until early November.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:41 am

Reaper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:05 pm

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:47 am

Rockmart has a really good little league

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:47 pm

The dodgers are averaging 91.5 wins per season over the past four years. That includes a 43-win 2020 season.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:14 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:39 pm absolutely nuts.

Was at Gonzaga Parents Weekend, and at the "Kraziness in the Kennel" (Gonzaga's version of midnight madness) during the end of the game. Everyone around us was watching the M's game on their phones and went crazy at the end. Bananas!

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:31 pm

well. that was... something.

i told my daughter that at least in like 10 years when ppl are still talking about this game you can "brag" that you were there. alas.

Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:32 pm One for the books unfolding in Toronto. From 8-1 to 9-9.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:49 pm

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:31 pm well. that was... something.

i told my daughter that at least in like 10 years when ppl are still talking about this game you can "brag" that you were there. alas.

Pruitt3 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:32 pm One for the books unfolding in Toronto. From 8-1 to 9-9.

ouch. yeah, that one will last in the memory banks.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:10 am

i only told her well-afterwards as we were somewhere in Hamilton that I'm now 0-5 lifetime in person at MLB postseason games in terms of who i was rooting for and 4 of those were season-enders.

That comment was met with - frankly - rudeness. hm.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:20 am

To be fair you have to expect the worst in the playoffs when the opponents are the Royals, Guardians, Rays, and Mariners.

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:53 am

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:29 pm

Great. Now here comes the fucking racist-ass chop.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:31 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:29 pm Great. Now here comes the fucking racist-ass chop.

I liked how MNF highlighted it at the beginning of the Chiefs game played on Indigenous People's Day.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:34 pm

7-1 worst lead in baseball.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:35 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:31 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:29 pm Great. Now here comes the fucking racist-ass chop.
I liked how MNF highlighted it at the beginning of the Chiefs game played on Indigenous People's Day.

I went to bed early and missed it because I woke up yesterday at 4. Did they pan the crowd to anyone wearing blankets?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:00 pm

Forgot how fun/not fun this is.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:45 pm

Verlander pitching like he thinks its already the World Series.

[+] spoiler: Yes, yes, I know how easily this can come back to bite me in about 3.5 hours.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:30 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:45 pm Verlander pitching like he thinks its already the World Series.

[+] spoiler
Yes, yes, I know how easily this can come back to bite me in about 3.5 hours.

Ahhh... Memories!

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:43 pm

Seeing Max Fried and Verlander get rocked after a long rest makes me relieved that the Yankees don’t have a comparable ace.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:59 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:02 am I don't hate the best of 3 wild card, but wasn't one of the points of the previous format to force a team out of its preferred pitching rotation? Now, you can pitch your ace in Game 1 of both the WC and the DS with 3 days rest. I know starting pitching isn't what it used to be but that still feels important.

Anyway, I'll go with Astros over Cardinals because everyone deserves that.

It looks like all 4 WC winners opted to roll the dice on stealing game 1 against a rusty opponent, then pitch their ace in game 2 with the opportunity available to pitch game 5 on short rest. That is looking like a pretty solid strategy.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:20 pm

Sending an aging fastball guy in to pitch to a red-dead fastball hitter.

Dumbass.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:26 pm

Managerial blunders already the story and Aaron Boone hasn’t even gotten started yet.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:31 pm

I’M OK MUTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!