But, then I see something like this, which is the level upon which these fucking people actually think. It's better to look marvelous than to be marvelous.
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mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
Fanniebug wrote: P.S. rass! Dont write me again, dude! You're in ignore list!
And now an impeachment threat!The Sybian wrote:Obama's legacy may be in trouble...
One thing that he understands about a large swath of the general public is that they are gullible, not too bright and have remarkably short attention spans. People aren't interested in the follow up, just get it out there, repeat it a few times, and a lot of people believe it.howard wrote:Just show us the birth certificate.
o/t, fucking Trump promised, on tv, repeatedly, for fucking years, that he would present proof of Obama's foreign birth. This was years before his current presidential run. Never ever did.
This alone should have completely DQ'd Trump from any serious attention, and from getting anywhere near the nomination. This fact alone should've limited Trump to maybe 3% kook vote in NH as a high point of his campaign.
But, shit is fucked up and bullshit. So, Trump.
No, I'm agreeing with you and saying why the hell go through such great lengths like they are doing. Just own that shit and defend it and tell people to fellate goats if they have a problem with it.howard wrote:It is technically diplomacy. The agreement is much more complex than a simple this-for-that transaction. But the public language used to describe it, from all sides, is deceptive, oversimplified and flat out dishonest. Public rhetoric from the administration, from the GOP and other political opposition, and from the Iranians tend toward bs.
Twas similar w/ Reagan and the arms for hostages scandal. In common, the Administration said one thing, loudly, stridently, indignantly, while doing the opposite. Difference, what the Reagan crew did was flat out illegal as well as covered up with blatant lies.
This was a cheap shot by me. Just making a cheap joke. I actually support the larger deal with Iran, and object to the fact that Obama failed to meet other terms, mostly financial, of the agreement, basically breaking the deal and rendering it void. (The money that was transferred was Iran's money, a refund from an arms deal that the US never completed, back in 1979. There are billions of dollars that belong to Iran, that were promised in the deal and Obama reneged.)
The punch line, Iran wasn't building bombs, had no interest in building bombs, at least unless and until Saudi Arabia does the same. They gave up very little in this agreement, and now the US has violated it Iran has little they can do in response.
The good news, Legacy Obama, in these remaining months, is likely to continue to do peace things wrt Iran and Syria. And only bomb Libya a little bit more.
mister d wrote:And even when disproven, it's a combination of the liberal media and "but it sounds believable (to idiots like me)".
The US continues to block Iranian money in western bank accounts, and failed to lift other sanctions. European banks have been afraid to return to business with Iran, because of threats from the US.Gunpowder wrote:And doing shit like this....well, I've read about the deal - aren't they going to pay the rest back later?
Makes total sense. And makes Facebook arguments look that much more ridiculous.P.D.X. wrote:Why facts don’t matter to Trump’s supporters
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
Prior to Trump's campaign, the standard Fox/GOP method was to push a fear narrative, and by the time it was proven false or didn't happen, they were on to the next fear tactic or untrue scandal. The majority of RW newsies still think ACORN was evil, the one guy actually tried to help the pimp and whore smuggle 13 yo sex slaves across the border (he peppered them with questions and immediately called authorities on both sides of the border). The tapes were proven faked and spliced to make their point, but Fox never mentions that. Then you look at all the horrible predictions about how Obama will destroy America. Even though none of their predictions, which were phrased as certainties, came true, it doesn't matter, the viewers "feel" like the predictions came true, and as Newt said, Liberals rely on facts, which even if true, don't matter, it only matters what feels true. Push a narrative of fear based on lies, and people feel terrified and that it's Obama's fault. When the viewers do get fact checked info, they are programed to believe that anything that goes against Fox/Breitbart is a bunch of Liberal lies.mister d wrote:And even when disproven, it's a combination of the liberal media and "but it sounds believable (to idiots like me)".
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
Snowden won't be as lucky. Cue GOP meltdown in 3..2..1...“Chelsea Manning is somebody who went through the military criminal justice process, was exposed to due process, was found guilty, was sentenced for her crimes, and she acknowledged wrongdoing,” he said. “Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary, and has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence in our democracy.”
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.