The Weather

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:10 pm

BSF21 wrote:
A_B wrote:I'll already be in Louisville Sunday. Volleyball tournament that also will NOT BE CANCELLED for any reason. I think these places work on such thin margins/cash flow that they might have a hard time refunding entry fees so they just say the game must go on!
We will be in Elizabeth Fri-Sun/Mon. Probably get down into Louisville to shoot for a few hours and get away fro the crowds if you can sneak out.

Tournament is slotted to run from 8-4, and there aren't rally any breaks. So I will have to pass. We should meet int he middle some day though.

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:22 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:Oh man. The tales of DC (and its suburbs) and snow are mind-boggling for anyone that grew up/lived in a region that is used to the stuff.

When I moved here from MI, the first few times schools were closed due to a few inches, I was just blown away. The idea that school facilities had to be absolutely completely clear for them to open was just bizarre. And you never really get used to that mentality.

Put it this way, I grew up with snow, but I learned to drive here... Yet I have absolutely no issues driving in the snow. It's absolutely drilled into people here that snow = DANGER!! My wife, who grew up here, is a fine driver... Refuses to even consider driving in the snow. Meanwhile, I'm one of the guys in our 'hood that will drive in deep snow to pre-plow the streets if the County doesn't get to us on Day 1 (used to happen a LOT, where they'd plow the main street but not get to side streets for 2, 3 days.)

It has very little to do with "knowing how to drive in snow." It has a lot more to do with the amount of equipment for salting/sanding/plowing. It has even more to do with tires. In places where it snows a lot, people use snow or winter tires and they often have chains, just in case. South of the Mason-Dixon line, nobody uses those. All vehicles use All-Season or Summer tires that suck in the snow. No amount of "knowing how" makes a difference if you can't grip the road.

As an example, here is a video comparing RWD (which should suck in snow) with winter tires vs. AWD with summer tires. There's no comparison.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:29 pm

Shirley wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:Oh man. The tales of DC (and its suburbs) and snow are mind-boggling for anyone that grew up/lived in a region that is used to the stuff.

When I moved here from MI, the first few times schools were closed due to a few inches, I was just blown away. The idea that school facilities had to be absolutely completely clear for them to open was just bizarre. And you never really get used to that mentality.

Put it this way, I grew up with snow, but I learned to drive here... Yet I have absolutely no issues driving in the snow. It's absolutely drilled into people here that snow = DANGER!! My wife, who grew up here, is a fine driver... Refuses to even consider driving in the snow. Meanwhile, I'm one of the guys in our 'hood that will drive in deep snow to pre-plow the streets if the County doesn't get to us on Day 1 (used to happen a LOT, where they'd plow the main street but not get to side streets for 2, 3 days.)
It has very little to do with "knowing how to drive in snow." It has a lot more to do with the amount of equipment for salting/sanding/plowing. It has even more to do with tires. In places where it snows a lot, people use snow or winter tires and they often have chains, just in case. South of the Mason-Dixon line, nobody uses those. All vehicles use All-Season or Summer tires that suck in the snow. No amount of "knowing how" makes a difference if you can't grip the road.

As an example, here is a video comparing RWD (which should suck in snow) with winter tires vs. AWD with summer tires. There's no comparison.

While I understand the point you're trying to make, my main complain is that people typically fall in 1 of 2 categories around here.

1) Oh my g-d is snowing and the roads are slick. I should drive 10mph everywhere I go regardless of the passability/plowedness of the roads to make sure everyone is safe! (This is unsafe and causes accidents).

2) Oh wow, it's snowing. I guess I should not change my asshole driving habits at all, refuse to slow down, leave space or be courteous to other motorists in any way at all. Surely this won't cause any problems. (This is unsafe and causes accidents)

I agree proper equipment would help, but so would everyone reducing their speed by 10-15 mph and just leaving a little bit of goddamn room for people to maneuver.

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:32 pm

I think it's a circular thing. It's harder to drive on untreated roads with summer tires, so folks panic and overreact. The overconfident idiots are found everywhere though.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:09 pm

h/t to Kranepool on fb

link

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:17 pm

snowfall totals, as of 1500 est. 20 inches at JFK airport, and counting.

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Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:11 pm

Still 0 inches and counting in Las Vegas but if it makes y'all feel better it's one of our 30 or so cloudy days of the year.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:59 pm

At 27 inches at my house in balt as of 6:00 with snow still falling - may end up near 30. Just unreal. First flakes were at 2:30 yesterday so closing in on 29 hours of snow.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:01 pm

We have a Jonas thread you guys!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:11 pm

0 inches here too

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:21 pm

No snow, but we've been getting rain showers nearly every day. El Niño, baby. Everybody says the drought ain't over, tho.

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:27 pm

rass wrote:We have a Jonas thread you guys!

sorry, I forgot

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:02 pm

It's OK howard.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:04 pm

Say it ain't so!

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:22 am

sancarlos wrote:No snow, but we've been getting rain showers nearly every day. El Niño, baby. Everybody says the drought ain't over, tho.

We had a super wet summer last year. Like rain 23 out of 30 days or something very un-Colorado. There were areas that still weren't out of drought status.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:51 pm

degenerasian wrote:0 inches here too

Man is your cousin gonna be pissed.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:36 am

Been a really mild winter in Toronto, but this weekend is going to be brutally cold.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:23 pm

George Clooney is a bit self-important, no?

The rain is gone hereabouts, and folks are starting to wring their hands again about our missing El Nino.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:30 pm

sancarlos wrote:George Clooney is a bit self-important, no?

The rain is gone hereabouts, and folks are starting to wring their hands again about our missing El Nino.

Thought you all were doing ok in northern california up to washington? It was southern california that remains stubbornly dry for an el nino?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:31 pm

I'm more worried about Scott Baio

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:36 pm

tennbengal wrote:
sancarlos wrote:George Clooney is a bit self-important, no?

The rain is gone hereabouts, and folks are starting to wring their hands again about our missing El Nino.
Thought you all were doing ok in northern california up to washington? It was southern california that remains stubbornly dry for an el nino?

Season-to-date, NorCal has had lots of moisture. But, we need it to continue for a couple more months.

phxgators · Post by **phxgators** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:37 am

Yesterday in Denver: High of 70
Today in Denver: Blizzard

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:52 am

phxgators wrote:Yesterday in Denver: High of 70
Today in Denver: Blizzard

We're at about 10 inches currently, and it seems like it just started up again. Fun!

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:14 pm

This shit is WET. Tree branches falling everywhere.

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:22 pm

Figured I'd do one shoveling this morning to make it easier after it stops. I got three rows shoveled on my driveway before I gave up. Way too heavy...afraid I was going to give myself a heart attack. Might just be waiting for this one to melt on its own...HOA be damned.

phxgators · Post by **phxgators** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:36 pm

Not even going to think about going back out until the wind dies down. Almost can't see the houses across the street at times.

Drove from Castle Rock to almost Deer Creek Canyon this morning - had big quarterly planning meetings at work, given the number of people involved working from home was going to be difficult. A mile or so off the freeway I stopped at a 90 degree curve for stuck vehicles, while stopped the wind pushed me sideways across the slightly downsloping road. Figured that was enough, did a 10-point turn and headed home. That was before 7:30, can't imagine how much worse it is now. It not a heavily traveled area, the people that managed to get in may not get out today.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:37 pm

Chamber of Commerce weather here. Upper 70s with a cool breeze. Perfect day to walk along the river to and from lunch.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:02 pm

Ryan wrote:I'm more worried about Scott Baio

Especially after this past week.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:54 am

3 inches of fresh snow on the ground, temperatures in the 20s-low30s until next week.

Winter has finally arrived in Toronto.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:43 am

It took me a couple of minutes this morning to realize I was seeing snow flakes and not tree flower petals.

Post by **Sabo** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:06 am

Got an inch of snow last night, but it will all be gone today because it's supposed to warm up to the mid 40s today. Tonight? Three-to-five inches of snow are expected.

I hate groundhogs.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:33 am

A nice January day here today. Wind chills tonight of -12 celsius (10 fahrenheit).

Three weeks ago, I had today pegged as the day to break out the clubs. Instead, the shovel will be standing by this weekend.

Post by **Shirley** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:04 am

Sabo wrote:Got an inch of snow last night, but it will all be gone today because it's supposed to warm up to the mid 40s today. Tonight? Three-to-five inches of snow are expected.

I hate groundhogs.

It was 80 and sunny yesterday here in the gray, rainy northwest. Spring is pretty fucking nice here (so far).

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:10 am

You got til about 3pm, right? Then monsoon season again.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:04 pm

rass wrote:It took me a couple of minutes this morning to realize I was seeing snow flakes and not tree flower petals.

I did same at lunch.

Post by **Shirley** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:26 pm

howard wrote:You got til about 3pm, right? Then monsoon season again.

Probably. Right now, there are a lot of confused people wondering what that bright thing in the sky is. And why does the sky look so plain?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:34 am

Seriously?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:58 am

And the best clouds aren't even forming in the second half

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:59 am

Shirley wrote:
howard wrote:You got til about 3pm, right? Then monsoon season again.
Probably. Right now, there are a lot of confused people wondering what that bright thing in the sky is. And why does the sky look so plain?

Lots of sunburned faces here at work this morning.

Supposed to be about 82 today. Glorious!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:47 am