2016 NFL Offseason Thread

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:45 pm

Kaepernick to the Jets, maybe?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:05 am

LeSean McCoy Had An Eventful Super Bowl Weekend

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:03 pm

Great write-up on the behind the scenes maneuvering that led to the Rams coming back to LA.

howard · Post by **howard** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:13 pm

The first paragraph describes the Rams' office in LA. I remember driving past with my parents when I was a little kid, and going in there to buy tickets when I was in college. Cracks me up it still exists decades later.

Post by **Shirley** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:21 pm

howard wrote:The first paragraph describes the Rams' office in LA. I remember driving past with my parents when I was a little kid, and going in there to buy tickets when I was in college. Cracks me up it still exists decades later.

I'd love to know what those two people did in that office for 20+ years while the team was in St. Louis. Were they paid? Can I get a gig like that?

Great article, by the way.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:30 pm

Sorry, but I found this amusing.

The Browns are two or three players away from being two or three players away

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:37 pm

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaath!

(sorry)

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:49 pm

I enjoyed him. Not like in the biblical sense of course.

Rams Fanny · Post by **Rams Fanny** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:21 pm

I may only be talking to myself, but the Laurinitis cut was surprising. He's a solid MLB. Long and Cook had to go.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:32 pm

Rams Fanny wrote:I may only be talking to myself, but the Laurinitis cut was surprising. He's a solid MLB. Long and Cook had to go.

He's paid like a top 5 LB and just had a horrible season. Makes sense to cut him.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:27 pm

Broncos' guard, former Eagle all-pro guard Evan Mathis rips Chip Kelly.

Mathis also stated via e-mail that Kelly is not the type of coach who could have handled the 2015 Broncos’ contingent of outsized characters.

“There were many things that Chip had done that showed me he wasn’t building a championship team,” Mathis wrote in his e-mail to 9NEWS. “Two of the main issues that concerned me were: 1. A never-evolving, vanilla offense that forced our own defense to play higher than normal play counts. 2. His impatience with certain personality types even when they were blue-chip talents. The Broncos team I was on would have eaten Chip alive. I don’t think he could have handled the plethora of large personalities.”

Might be an interesting season in San Francisco.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:46 pm

Post by **brian** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:39 pm

Crazy, yet true NFL fact I just learned. Matthew Stafford last year became the first QB in NFL history to complete more than 60 percent of his passes in all 16 games.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:30 pm

https://vine.co/v/i6drEEv129K

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:35 pm

Jesus, seeing Rob Ryan in a Bills shirt makes me very, very unhappy.

And not just because he is building the world's most perfect gut either.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:35 pm

Pruitt wrote:And not just because he is building the world's most perfect gut either.

Is he a cheeseburger eating muthafucker?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:04 pm

Rex's may be bigger, but that is one proud looking Canadian gut right there.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:37 pm

I am and have always been a big Elway supporter, but that made me laugh.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:32 pm

ATHEIST PERSECUTION!!!!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:21 pm

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:20 am

Is Mazda the only company Peyton has never shilled for?

duff · Post by **duff** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:21 am

sancarlos wrote:

Hogsett is an idiot. But I can't believe someone didn't proof that before posting. BSF be proud you are outside of Marion County.

duff · Post by **duff** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:18 am

Megatron has officially retired.

Post by **brian** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:29 am

Knew it was coming, but still sucks. Can't blame him for getting out with $100M and while he can still walk and with a functioning brain. Will be surprised if we don't start seeing more guys retiring after playing out most of their one big FA contract.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:01 pm

Should be interesting when guys start retiring after their one big signing bonus but before the team wants to cut/renegotiate them.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:21 pm

mister d wrote:Should be interesting when guys start retiring after their one big signing bonus but before the team wants to cut/renegotiate them.

You'll recall that promising 49er linebacker Chris Borland retired after his 2014 rookie season. He agreed to repay most of his signing bonus.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:22 pm

But don't a lot of post-rookie deals contain "roster bonuses" in the early stages to front load the cash? It would seem tough for teams to argue a roster bonus is actually supposed to be allocated over full term, especially when they often cut before full term.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:31 pm

duff wrote:Megatron has officially retired.

Sucks he had so many injuries the last several years. I really thought he was going to end up being the greatest WR ever.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:13 pm

mister d wrote:But don't a lot of post-rookie deals contain "roster bonuses" in the early stages to front load the cash? It would seem tough for teams to argue a roster bonus is actually supposed to be allocated over full term, especially when they often cut before full term.

I can't imagine any situation where this would benefit a player.

No one in their right mind would turn down a restructure - future money is paid right now.

Most players also don't really have huge roster bonuses.

EDIT: Let's take a top player. Ben Roethlisberger has a $5 million roster bonus in 2018.

http://overthecap.com/player/ben-roethlisberger/1580/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He also has a $12 mil base salary. If the team pays your roster bonus, they are keeping you on the roster, obviously. So he'd give up $12 mil in base salary assuming the team can't just take the roster bonus back.

A non-star QB like Demarco Murray has no roster bonus over $500K.

http://overthecap.com/player/demarco-murray/621/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Shirley** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:43 pm

brian wrote:Knew it was coming, but still sucks. Can't blame him for getting out with $100M and while he can still walk and with a functioning brain. Will be surprised if we don't start seeing more guys retiring after playing out most of their one big FA contract.

I don't know. These still surprise me. I mean, I get it - they want to stay healthy ... but yet these are professional athletes. Professional football players. These guys generally think they are invincible. And they are getting paid a TON of money to play a game for a job.

I know it's not the same, but I still go play pickup basketball even though my knees are mostly shot and half the time I hurt myself and have to limp around for a week or two. Sports are fun. And I'm not remotely as good at any sport as these guys are. They'll never be able to replicate the rush of playing an NFL game.

I way more understand the guys like Brett Favre who can't walk away than the ones who quit in their primes.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:48 pm

You probably don't fear that your knees will not work at age 50. If you remember what knees are. These guys get surgery after surgery in retirement.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:21 pm

Gunpowder wrote:Let's take a top player. Ben Roethlisberger has a $5 million roster bonus in 2018.

He also has a $12 mil base salary. If the team pays your roster bonus, they are keeping you on the roster, obviously. So he'd give up $12 mil in base salary assuming the team can't just take the roster bonus back.

Is it no longer (was it never?) a thing where contracts would have pretty high roster bonuses over the first two seasons of like a six year deal, basically enticing the guy to sign by offering a ton of cash up front? Why did I think that was a thing?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:43 am

So by the time his new contract expires after the 2017 season, Sam Bradford will have made around $100 million.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:39 am

Pruitt wrote:So by the time his new contract expires after the 2017 season, Sam Bradford will have made around $100 million.

This is such a misleading statistic.

$78MM of that total is from his rookie deal.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:43 am

Brontoburglar wrote:
Pruitt wrote:So by the time his new contract expires after the 2017 season, Sam Bradford will have made around $100 million.
This is such a misleading statistic.

$78MM of that total is from his rookie deal.

What is misleading about the total?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:47 am

A_B wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
Pruitt wrote:So by the time his new contract expires after the 2017 season, Sam Bradford will have made around $100 million.
This is such a misleading statistic.

$78MM of that total is from his rookie deal.
What is misleading about the total?

It's presented in a fashion that shows Bradford as a player that teams will happily overpay for mediocre production.

While you can make that overpaid argument, it's hard to do so when a vast majority of that money came before he ever took an NFL snap. And it's not like the Rams had any choice to not pay Bradford. Sure, they could have spent a few million less, but because of the way rookie salaries were structured, he was gonna get paid regardless.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:06 am

His post rookie deal will pay him a higher AAV than his rookie deal did. The Eagles gave him a 35% raise over his first contract average for mediocre production.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:12 am

That Bradford deal, and the money that Cousins is going to get is fucking the Broncos, now. They didn't offer Osweiler anywhere near that kind of money before the window opened, and now the speculation is that Houston is going to pay up for Osweiler, leaving Denver with no obvious options.

Colin Kaepernick? Ryan Fitzpatrick? Bubby Brister?

Post by **brian** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:23 am

sancarlos wrote:That Bradford deal, and the money that Cousins is going to get is fucking the Broncos, now. They didn't offer Osweiler anywhere near that kind of money before the window opened, and now the speculation is that Houston is going to pay up for Osweiler, leaving Denver with no obvious options.

Colin Kaepernick? Ryan Fitzpatrick? Bubby Brister?

Of course they had options. They could have franchised him, but mis-managed their situation with Von Miller and were forced to choose between the two.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:29 am

brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:That Bradford deal, and the money that Cousins is going to get is fucking the Broncos, now. They didn't offer Osweiler anywhere near that kind of money before the window opened, and now the speculation is that Houston is going to pay up for Osweiler, leaving Denver with no obvious options, NOW.

Colin Kaepernick? Ryan Fitzpatrick? Bubby Brister?
Of course they HAD options. They could have franchised him, but mis-managed their situation with Von Miller and were forced to choose between the two.