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This is not worth starting a new thread, but...

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Very cute, but not nearly twee enough to be a proper Wes Anderson spoof. Way too much modern architecture, outfits, etc.
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The kid (George) became a fan base cult hero last season after being put on the jumbotron in the "cheer the home fan, boo the visiting fan" thing. He made appearances on it at multiple games and walked the red carpet at the NHL Awards last night.
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mister d wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:42 pm PLD on that contract seems like a great deal and Vilardi is a really nice get in return. A good trade.
Dubois is going to have to increase his production for it to be a good deal for the Kings, imho. Iafallo and Vilardi are a great return for the Jets, given that they had to make a deal.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm
mister d wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:42 pm PLD on that contract seems like a great deal and Vilardi is a really nice get in return. A good trade.
Dubois is going to have to increase his production for it to be a good deal for the Kings, imho. Iafallo and Vilardi are a great return for the Jets, given that they had to make a deal.
Yeah, I like it for the Jets especially since they did it with a gun to their heads. I think they can probably do a deal for prospects and/or picks for Hellebuyck now.
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brian wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:03 pm
sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm
mister d wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:42 pm PLD on that contract seems like a great deal and Vilardi is a really nice get in return. A good trade.
Dubois is going to have to increase his production for it to be a good deal for the Kings, imho. Iafallo and Vilardi are a great return for the Jets, given that they had to make a deal.
Yeah, I like it for the Jets especially since they did it with a gun to their heads. I think they can probably do a deal for prospects and/or picks for Hellebuyck now.
The Devils just acquired Toffoli. They'll probably get Hellebuyck too since they also traded Blackwood to San Jose.
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Teams love giving the devils good players for mediocre returns.
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That team is gonna be so good if they get a goalie.
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Hellebuyck for Curtis Lazar and a 2nd I’m sure.
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Ha ha. I know Blackwood isn’t exactly Patrick Roy, but he can’t be worse than what the Sharks have, and he only cost a 6th, so I’ll take it.
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degenerasian wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:26 pm
brian wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:03 pm
sancarlos wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm
mister d wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:42 pm PLD on that contract seems like a great deal and Vilardi is a really nice get in return. A good trade.
Dubois is going to have to increase his production for it to be a good deal for the Kings, imho. Iafallo and Vilardi are a great return for the Jets, given that they had to make a deal.
Yeah, I like it for the Jets especially since they did it with a gun to their heads. I think they can probably do a deal for prospects and/or picks for Hellebuyck now.
The Devils just acquired Toffoli. They'll probably get Hellebuyck too since they also traded Blackwood to San Jose.
Toffoli wanted 6 more years at 33. No thanks. We'll take the cheaper younger goalscorer in Sharangovich
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Definitely cheaper and younger.
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I would be surprised if Sharangovich puts up numbers approaching Toffoli’s.
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The flipside is that I wouldn't be totally shocked if Toffoli puts up numbers close to Sharangovich's. If that makes sense.
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mister d wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:28 pm The flipside is that I wouldn't be totally shocked if Toffoli puts up numbers close to Sharangovich's. If that makes sense.
Toffoli has a pretty strong track record, at different teams. So, I'd expect him to bring the offense in Jersey, at least until age starts affecting him. Glad to have him out of the West, as he always seemed to do well against the Sharks.

Speaking of Jersey, I'm happy for Timo Meier. Not sure how that deal will look for them in a few years, though. After what the Sharks have been through, 8-year contracts scare the hell out of me.
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After Panarin I'm wary about any huge contracts like that paid to wings that'll be into their 30s.
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VGK trade Reilly Smith to Pittsburgh. Guessing this is to make cap room for Barbashev.
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brian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:42 pm VGK trade Reilly Smith to Pittsburgh. Guessing this is to make cap room for Barbashev.
Glad he got a Cup. Poor guy was rumored to be on the trading block for two years.
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brian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:42 pm VGK trade Reilly Smith to Pittsburgh. Guessing this is to make cap room for Barbashev.
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sancarlos wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:45 pm
brian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:42 pm VGK trade Reilly Smith to Pittsburgh. Guessing this is to make cap room for Barbashev.
Glad he got a Cup. Poor guy was rumored to be on the trading block for two years.
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sancarlos wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:26 pm I would be surprised if Sharangovich puts up numbers approaching Toffoli’s.
He doesn't have to be a straight equivalent.

With the market the way it is where Hall goes for nothing and Kevin Hayes goes for a 6th round pick, this return is actually quite good. Toffoli was not going to be a Flame after the next season and this was the time to trade him (or before season starts).

With Coronato coming in next year, and Flames in general wanting to give more opportunity to younger players, it was quite likely that Toffoli would have been on pace for around 40-50 points and would return less at the trade deadline. The only reason he got this many points is that he was the Flames go to guy, which can not happen next season - it needs to be Huberdeau. I loved Toffoli but he was just not the way Flames should be moving forward, another season of him would have changed nothing.

I loved that they got a guy like Sharangovich, this trade reminds me a bit of Fiala to Minny trade a couple years back. Flames can not trade all of their UFAs for picks, they have too many players signed for 6-8 more years, you need to trade for some young RFAs that have potential to become something more. There are too many good forwards on the Devils that pushed him out of the line up but that should not be an issue here.
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I feel like something bad is going to happen tonight. Drury is going to solve the cap crunch by trading someone he shouldn’t because he’s made it so he can’t trade who he should.
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Coyotes go waaaaay off the board at #6. And people wonder why they are always bad.
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degenerasian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm
sancarlos wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:26 pm I would be surprised if Sharangovich puts up numbers approaching Toffoli’s.
He doesn't have to be a straight equivalent.

With the market the way it is where Hall goes for nothing and Kevin Hayes goes for a 6th round pick, this return is actually quite good. Toffoli was not going to be a Flame after the next season and this was the time to trade him (or before season starts).

With Coronato coming in next year, and Flames in general wanting to give more opportunity to younger players, it was quite likely that Toffoli would have been on pace for around 40-50 points and would return less at the trade deadline. The only reason he got this many points is that he was the Flames go to guy, which can not happen next season - it needs to be Huberdeau. I loved Toffoli but he was just not the way Flames should be moving forward, another season of him would have changed nothing.

I loved that they got a guy like Sharangovich, this trade reminds me a bit of Fiala to Minny trade a couple years back. Flames can not trade all of their UFAs for picks, they have too many players signed for 6-8 more years, you need to trade for some young RFAs that have potential to become something more. There are too many good forwards on the Devils that pushed him out of the line up but that should not be an issue here.
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degenerasian wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:07 pm Coyotes go waaaaay off the board at #6. And people wonder why they are always bad.
You could tell the kid was shocked, himself.
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Michkov and his delayed start seemed perfect for a team trying not to spend while also, presumably, trying to look competent.
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Last time the Rangers did the smart thing and grabbed a falling BPA the kid died before ever getting to NYC. Best of luck for a better outcome to Yanic Perreault’s kid!
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I am very happy with the two sharks first rounders.
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Vegas still had their original 7th round pick which would have been the last pick in the draft but traded it to Columbus for their 2024 7th, which tells you all you need to know about Columbus’ faith in being able to attract UFAs.
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