The Swamp

Okay so I have renewed the league. Based on complaining last year I have set it as 14 teams and placed the top 14 teams in the league. I am more than happy to move it to 20 again but am hoping someone else will start up the Unknown Championship division so we can start promotion/relegation again.

In:
Buffalo Soliders
Fighting Giant Rats
Giff
GoodKarma
GreenBay Icehounds
HDO
Infant Fight Club
Mappers Delight
Rass Moneky
Sabo FC
Tequila Mockingbirds
Tiger's 1860
Travzilla Thrilla
wlu_lax6

Out:
TT
Vinnie's Genius Team
Reaper
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Any thought to making this a keeper league, or can we not do that because of the promotion/relegation we do between Swamp leagues?

Keepar.

mister d wrote:Keepar.

You're not even in the league!

(Personally, I could go either way on whether or not we go to a keeper league.)

sancarlos wrote:

mister d wrote:Keepar.

You're not even in the league!

(Personally, I could go either way on whether or not we go to a keeper league.)

I thought about that but with promotion and relegation we probably should start fresh. That being said, if we end up expanding to a 20 team league again because nobody can get a 2nd division, I say we put that in starting next year.

Okay so I set the draft time
Date: Saturday August 27, 2016
Time: 8:00 am Eastern

Start your complaining and counter proposals now.

Also currently a 14 team league. If any of the 6 or were not in the league last year but want in, raise it now so we can decide to expand the number of teams or restart the Unknown League.

I'll start the Unknown back up with the 6 (plus whomever)

I can probably get sometime Swamper RSL in the fold (he's a sucker for leagues.)

So we can strive for 14, but get by with 10 or 12 right?

also, I think that these should be switched to auction format. Too much rides on the luck of getting an early pick.

mister d wrote:Keepar.

heh

Rush2112 wrote:Too much rides on the luck of getting an early pick.

Isn't football probably the easiest to win from any spot? Half the first round ends up hurt or benched and even if all your guys stay healthy, someone else's lucky ass waiver claim carries them for 10 weeks.

Rush2112 wrote:also, I think that these should be switched to auction format. Too much rides on the luck of getting an early pick.

Problem with auction is you can't really easily auto draft in auction format. The league has people from Wales -> West Coast. Way too hard to get a draft time that works for everyone. So snake draft it is. Should be a bit less luck with 14 teams instead of 20. Also with 20 we will have deeper talent on the waiver wire. So active managers should do better.

What scoring do you guys use? I'm looking to set one up and most scoring seems pretty dumb where you basically pick goal scorers then guys you know will get a lot of time with good clubs.

We use the one where goals are called touchdowns

Fucking americans.

Picking nits, wlu: "Bensell" (not Bensall).

sancarlos wrote:Picking nits, wlu: "Bensell" (not Bensall).

Before I read this post I noticed it. I just edited. Normally I wouldn't care and I know no disrespect was intended, but I wanted to fix it.

I agree with the point made above by Ryan that football benefits less from auction drafting than other sports. So, I'd prefer we keep it a standard draft.

As an aside, as some of you know, we have done an auction draft for a few years now in the Swamp fantasy hockey league. I like the format a lot for hockey, but it would really be a ton better if half the guys weren't auto-drafting. Auto-drafting an auction fucks things up for the both drafter and for the guys actively participating.

mister d wrote:What scoring do you guys use? I'm looking to set one up and most scoring seems pretty dumb where you basically pick goal scorers then guys you know will get a lot of time with good clubs.

We've used the standard scoring with the addition of PPR IIRC.

brian wrote:

sancarlos wrote:Picking nits, wlu: "Bensell" (not Bensall).

Before I read this post I noticed it. I just edited. Normally I wouldn't care and I know no disrespect was intended, but I wanted to fix it.

Glad you did too.

i want (back) in.

So, commish wlu/lax - are you committed to holding our draft at 5:00 in the morning pacific time next Saturday? Just my opinion, but I find that timing quite a bit less than optimal.

sancarlos wrote:So, commish wlu/lax - are you committed to holding our draft at 5:00 in the morning pacific time next Saturday? Just my opinion, but I find that timing quite a bit less than optimal.

No. I am more than happy to find another time. Remember it has to work for our UK participant and Left Coasters. So I will counter with another time if anyone can propose a better one before Tuesday (2 days before game 1)

wlu_lax6 wrote:

sancarlos wrote:So, commish wlu/lax - are you committed to holding our draft at 5:00 in the morning pacific time next Saturday? Just my opinion, but I find that timing quite a bit less than optimal.

No. I am more than happy to find another time. Remember it has to work for our UK participant and Left Coasters. So I will counter with another time if anyone can propose a better one before Tuesday (2 days before game 1)

I'd suggest 3 or 4 hours later, on Saturday or Sunday. That would still be 4 or 5 pm in the UK. Thanks

sancarlos wrote:

wlu_lax6 wrote:

sancarlos wrote:So, commish wlu/lax - are you committed to holding our draft at 5:00 in the morning pacific time next Saturday? Just my opinion, but I find that timing quite a bit less than optimal.

No. I am more than happy to find another time. Remember it has to work for our UK participant and Left Coasters. So I will counter with another time if anyone can propose a better one before Tuesday (2 days before game 1)

I'd suggest 3 or 4 hours later, on Saturday or Sunday. That would still be 4 or 5 pm in the UK. Thanks

Any time on Saturday would be fine for me. Sunday, before 5pm, would not work. However, if Sunday is the agreed-upon date, I can just set up my draft picks ahead of time, and hope for the best.

What platform do you guys use?

Gunpowder wrote:What platform do you guys use?

Same one we have always do....that you don't like

Figured but wanted to make sure. Carry on.

Have we figured out who want's in or been relegated to Unknown? I can set up today/tonight.

I'd prefer to use ESPN so I have all leagues in one place, but will create in whatever the people want.

In so far:

TT
Vinnie's Genius Team (?)
Reaper (?)
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Kwgduke
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Rush2112 wrote:Have we figured out who want's in or been relegated to Unknown? I can set up today/tonight.

I'd prefer to use ESPN so I have all leagues in one place, but will create in whatever the people want.

In so far:

TT
Vinnie's Genius Team (?)
Reaper (?)
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Kwgduke
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Looks like you already have the six who were relegated from Premiership when wlu_lax cut it from 20 teams to 14. What you need now are the people who were in Unknown last year plus any additions.

btw, Reaper is hiphop.

I don't think there was an unknown last year, or if there was who was in it.

Rush2112 wrote:I don't think there was an unknown last year, or if there was who was in it.

correct that was the reason for the 20 team premiership

I'm in, but only on Yahoo.

im in for unknown

HaulCitgo wrote:im in for unknown

If you're in the Unknown PM me an email and I'll start the invite process.

I know I'm im the Unknown league, and that's only because we don't have a third-tier league anymore.

I'm confirmed back for Premiership. Current draft time is fine but I'll make every effort to attend any other time chosen.

HDO45331 wrote:

sancarlos wrote:

wlu_lax6 wrote:

sancarlos wrote:So, commish wlu/lax - are you committed to holding our draft at 5:00 in the morning pacific time next Saturday? Just my opinion, but I find that timing quite a bit less than optimal.

No. I am more than happy to find another time. Remember it has to work for our UK participant and Left Coasters. So I will counter with another time if anyone can propose a better one before Tuesday (2 days before game 1)

I'd suggest 3 or 4 hours later, on Saturday or Sunday. That would still be 4 or 5 pm in the UK. Thanks

Any time on Saturday would be fine for me. Sunday, before 5pm, would not work. However, if Sunday is the agreed-upon date, I can just set up my draft picks ahead of time, and hope for the best.

wlu, please let us know pretty soon what you are going to do.

Sliding it back to a Saturday evening a week later. Early enough for UK, mid day for West Coast and still have time to get it done quick hang out with the family over labor day weekend.
Date: Saturday September 3, 2016
Time: 6:00 pm

will take counter proposals. but be specific.

Okay so a team just dropped from the Premier League. First PM with your email address gets you the invite. You will have 24 hours to complete signup before I move to the 2nd person etc.

Hold the phone. Infant Fight Club is in.