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EnochRoot wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 7:38 pm Any recommendations?

My recommendation is to not do any of that.

Holy shit I didn't know this (ductless range hoods) was a thing

Not sure I follow why the range being 8" deeper than the hood would matter tho

Steve on his Gordon Ramsay

I feel like I'd want to hear that fan in action. $99 and only two diff speeds would concern me.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 am Holy shit I didn't know this (ductless range hoods) was a thing

Yeah, me either. I can't imagine that model is very effective, especially at $99. I know when we redid our kitchen, the contractor refused to replace the over-the-stove microwave with a built-in exhaust fan. The stove was next to an external wall, so it was a very short run to vent, but he said they aren't effective and strongly encouraged a hood.

That job’s (most jobs) way beyond my pay grade. I have nothing further to add.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:37 am

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 am Holy shit I didn't know this (ductless range hoods) was a thing

Yeah, me either. I can't imagine that model is very effective, especially at $99. I know when we redid our kitchen, the contractor refused to replace the over-the-stove microwave with a built-in exhaust fan. The stove was next to an external wall, so it was a very short run to vent, but he said they aren't effective and strongly encouraged a hood.

This looks good at spraying oil and soot on various other surfaces of your kitchen.

Get a real hood if you're upgrading.

We have a hood that is not vented. We are in a n all electric neighborhood so I don’t think they are required. It doesn’t work very well but we also rarely have to use it for anything other than operator error

Yeah, this has only become an issue since my purchase a couple years ago of a bunch of cast iron cookware from LeCreuset. Whenever I cook with it, the dog heads upstairs for better air.

The oven's on a shared wall (row house), so if we did it the proper way with a vented range hood, it'd need to either connect to a duct that maps to the other side of the kitchen (13 feet?), or up and out underneath the upstairs dryer vent I had installed this past winter.

Question: do you need an exhaust fan at the end point of the duct (to outside the house) in addition to the fan that sucks up the steam/grease? I can't imagine they'd be fun to clean out.

Question 2: What's more important? That the duct be on a shortest path to outside the house, or a straighter path? Cuz I'm looking at a 90 degree angle at some point (or a diagonal vent along a bedroom wall).

Or, if the path is ideally straight, then I'm looking at a roof exit.

I need some professional advice.

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 3:57 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:37 am

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 am Holy shit I didn't know this (ductless range hoods) was a thing

Yeah, me either. I can't imagine that model is very effective, especially at $99. I know when we redid our kitchen, the contractor refused to replace the over-the-stove microwave with a built-in exhaust fan. The stove was next to an external wall, so it was a very short run to vent, but he said they aren't effective and strongly encouraged a hood.

This looks good at spraying oil and soot on various other surfaces of your kitchen.

Get a real hood if you're upgrading.

No doubt, I'll just run it 40 floors straight up through everyone else's kitchen.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:55 am

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 3:57 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:37 am

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 am Holy shit I didn't know this (ductless range hoods) was a thing

Yeah, me either. I can't imagine that model is very effective, especially at $99. I know when we redid our kitchen, the contractor refused to replace the over-the-stove microwave with a built-in exhaust fan. The stove was next to an external wall, so it was a very short run to vent, but he said they aren't effective and strongly encouraged a hood.

This looks good at spraying oil and soot on various other surfaces of your kitchen.

Get a real hood if you're upgrading.

No doubt, I'll just run it 40 floors straight up through everyone else's kitchen.

That's the spirit, fuckem.

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:55 am

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 3:57 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:37 am

Gunpowder wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 am Holy shit I didn't know this (ductless range hoods) was a thing

Yeah, me either. I can't imagine that model is very effective, especially at $99. I know when we redid our kitchen, the contractor refused to replace the over-the-stove microwave with a built-in exhaust fan. The stove was next to an external wall, so it was a very short run to vent, but he said they aren't effective and strongly encouraged a hood.

This looks good at spraying oil and soot on various other surfaces of your kitchen.

Get a real hood if you're upgrading.

No doubt, I'll just run it 40 floors straight up through everyone else's kitchen.

Good point, can't remember what I had when I lived in apartments.

It makes too much sense to me now.

I’m going to have someone install a vent system that runs between the joists above the kitchen ceiling. The range hood’s fan will suck up all the smoke / moisture / debris and send it out the duct flapper thingy on the western wall.

Too easy.

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:05 am It makes too much sense to me now.

I’m going to have someone install a vent system that runs between the joists above the kitchen ceiling. The range hood’s fan will suck up all the smoke / moisture / debris and send it out the duct flapper thingy on the western wall.

Too easy.

Wait so standard operating procedure is not open windows and doors and running around flapping dish towels so the smoke detector does not go off....huh...interesting.

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:17 am

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:05 am It makes too much sense to me now.

I’m going to have someone install a vent system that runs between the joists above the kitchen ceiling. The range hood’s fan will suck up all the smoke / moisture / debris and send it out the duct flapper thingy on the western wall.

Too easy.

Wait so standard operating procedure is not open windows and doors and running around flapping dish towels so the smoke detector does not go off....huh...interesting.

That’s how I was raised.

So basically I still need to install a vented range hood, but what helped immensely was to switch to a refined coconut oil rather than use the unrefined variant. The smoke point on the refined oil is much higher, and ideal for sautéing meats.

Good grief.

The more you know.

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 6:43 pm So basically I still need to install a vented range hood, but what helped immensely was to switch to a refined coconut oil rather than use the unrefined variant. The smoke point on the refined oil is much higher, and ideal for sautéing meats.

Good grief.

The more you know.

Been looking for a good cooking oil for searing on a cast iron skillet. Olive oil burns too easily, I can't stand the taste of canola or vegetable oil.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:29 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 6:43 pm So basically I still need to install a vented range hood, but what helped immensely was to switch to a refined coconut oil rather than use the unrefined variant. The smoke point on the refined oil is much higher, and ideal for sautéing meats.

Good grief.

The more you know.

Been looking for a good cooking oil for searing on a cast iron skillet. Olive oil burns too easily, I can't stand the taste of canola or vegetable oil.

I'm going to be trying peanut oil and corn oil this week.

Good link to catch up on the types of cooking oils (and the type of cooking you should do with them).

You can also mix olive oil and canola or something else with a higher smoking point at like 1:3 or 1:4 so you get the flavor and the functionality.

Coconut oil cooks pretty mild right? I think you have to use more of it though.

A_B wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:00 pm Coconut oil cooks pretty mild right? I think you have to use more of it though.

Volume won't matter. Smoke point = boiling point, where the substance ceases to be of (effective) use.

mister d wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:48 pm You can also mix olive oil and canola or something else with a higher smoking point at like 1:3 or 1:4 so you get the flavor and the functionality.

That's interesting. I don't know if I have a favorite to cling to enough instead of just finding one that solves my problem.

Isn't plenty of olive oil already diluted with some other oil?

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:55 am Isn't plenty of olive oil already diluted with some other oil?

It shouldn't be, as long as it isn't like a Great Value brand or something



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My fridge, which I prefer to be on, is off. I’ve checked the outlet and breaker and they’re fine so it’s definitely the fridge itself. Next move is …

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:37 pm My fridge, which I prefer to be on, is off. I’ve checked the outlet and breaker and they’re fine so it’s definitely the fridge itself. Next move is …

Buying a new one? Before we redid the kitchen in the old house, we had a built in Sub-Zero made in 1985. The dimensions changed since then so replacement wasn’t an option. Based on a lot of factors, replacing the fridge meant having to redo the entire kitchen. We had a protection plan with PSE&G where they would repair all kitchen appliances. They replaced every single component in that fridge, one at a time. No charge, other than the small monthly fee. Actual charges would have been far more than buying a new fridge. Then they smartened up and stopped covering high end appliances.

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:37 pm My fridge, which I prefer to be on, is off. I’ve checked the outlet and breaker and they’re fine so it’s definitely the fridge itself. Next move is …

How old is it?

Its got Jon Benet beat by a few months.

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:40 am Its got Jon Benet beat by a few months.

Jon Benet at time of her death or birth/manufacture date? Guessing the former, otherwise it's a clear decision.

Yeah, its not quite seven so I'm hoping its a visit and obvious part swap. Anything more and I'll pay the visit fee and order a new one.

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:40 am Its got Jon Benet beat by a few months.

This was terrible phrasing.

Anyone ever use insurance for food lost to a dead fridge?

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:49 pm Anyone ever use insurance for food lost to a dead fridge?

No. But make sure to tell them about the racks of caviar and filet mignon you lost!

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:49 pm Anyone ever use insurance for food lost to a dead fridge?

Yes but as part of a larger deal related to one of the ice storms. Think we said an amount and the guy said ok

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:49 pm Anyone ever use insurance for food lost to a dead fridge?

Would you meat your deductible?

sancarlos wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:12 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:49 pm Anyone ever use insurance for food lost to a dead fridge?

No. But make sure to tell them about the racks of caviar and filet mignon you lost!

I had just stocked the freezer with a trip to Barth's!

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:33 am

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:37 pm My fridge, which I prefer to be on, is off. I’ve checked the outlet and breaker and they’re fine so it’s definitely the fridge itself. Next move is …

Buying a new one? Before we redid the kitchen in the old house, we had a built in Sub-Zero made in 1985. The dimensions changed since then so replacement wasn’t an option. Based on a lot of factors, replacing the fridge meant having to redo the entire kitchen. We had a protection plan with PSE&G where they would repair all kitchen appliances. They replaced every single component in that fridge, one at a time. No charge, other than the small monthly fee. Actual charges would have been far more than buying a new fridge. Then they smartened up and stopped covering high end appliances.

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