Did I hear something about the Red Sox playing the Yankees tonight?
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:12 pm
by Reaper
I'll watch because I'm a baseball fan, but I can't stand the hype machine. ESPN calling it a classic before it even starts. I don't care who wins really, but I hope whichever team does, does so by 10 runs, because I don't feel like being up till 12:45 when it ends.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:44 pm
by mister d
I assume they can’t talk about it, but Cole + cold weather + no sticky stuff …
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:15 pm
by Reaper
mister d wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:44 pm
I assume they can’t talk about it, but Cole + cold weather + no sticky stuff …
I'd say 2+ innings in an all-or-nothing game is not what NYY paid for (or he can still come back for Game 2 if the Yanks come back?)
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:17 pm
by rass
ESPN crew also misjudged it at first but this is funnier
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:42 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:54 pm
by mister d
The statcast is awful. After 3 PAs, they said judge and Stanton weren’t producing when it was one “big single” and a judge fly out to the track in RCF. Then they talked about the Sox employing two CF to cover the big OF in a game where they’re playing zero CF. It’s a great idea (for me) executed with whatever people they had on hand versus actual stat-smart and fluent analysts (like David Cone, for one).
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:54 pm
by mister d
OTHERWISE I’M IN A GREAT MOOD THANK YOU.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:00 pm
by mister d
Odor leading off the inning was a clear managerial fuck up. Pulling Eovaldi here feels like a far bigger one.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:05 pm
by Giff
Look on the bright side, Jose Altuve will be someone else’s Daddy this postseason.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:07 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:12 pm
by govmentchedda
10 feet? Seemed way more bang bang to me. Maybe because of how far the catcher had to reach for Judge.
10 feet? Seemed way more bang bang to me. Maybe because of how far the catcher had to reach for Judge.
I wouldn’t say bang bang but it wasn’t ten feet
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:12 pm
by mister d
10 feet is like “be there in a second”, no? Means there was no suspense.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:18 am
by MaxWebster
i don't know D, that was the first time i saw a/the statcast feed and - maybe my bar is extremely low? - but that was as good as it can get for me. I don't recall hearing a single anecdote about "heart" or intangible garbage and it was all focused on the actual game. Fng awesome. Also maybe I missed it but I didn't see one batting average posted at all which was fascinating. Gimme more.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:52 am
by L-Jam3
Apropos of nothing, I only learned for the first time listening to ESPN Daily's podcast that the Bucky Dent home run was in the 7th inning. All these years, I thought it was the top of the 9th the way Red Sox fans have been carrying on about it forever. And after that inning, it was 4-2. It wasn't insurmountable. I understand this guy's mother:
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:10 am
by MaxWebster
HA
yeah i guess i knew that (7th inning HR) but you bring up a larger point that that game has been reduced to "the bucky dent game" or whatever but holy hell, it really was among the greatest games ever and that was only one part. Also as a former Red Sox fan I think Mike Torrez always got a raw deal - he pitched a good game up into the 7th and even then what are you gonna do. "315'"
Actually Reggie's HR was the eventual game-winner, and you can make the case that Lou Piniella won the game for the yanks in RF.
I might need to blow a few hours some day and watch the whole thing. (my parents let me leave 3rd grade early that day to watch it live. i remember spilling a bowl of goldfish crackers when Yaz hit his HR and then breaking my Red Sox helmet when it was over. such maturity hahaha)
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:57 am
by mister d
MaxWebster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:18 am
i don't know D, that was the first time i saw a/the statcast feed and - maybe my bar is extremely low? - but that was as good as it can get for me. I don't recall hearing a single anecdote about "heart" or intangible garbage and it was all focused on the actual game. Fng awesome. Also maybe I missed it but I didn't see one batting average posted at all which was fascinating. Gimme more.
It has the potential to be a lot better but Perez just isn't the right guy for it. There are former players who have fully committed to understanding this stuff rather than "here's a guy we already use, lets shift him over".
(I also loved that with every batter on the regular feed they had "league average is 100" underneath OPS+. I didn't also love that they used OPS+ in the first place rather than start teaching people about wOBA.)
10 feet? Seemed way more bang bang to me. Maybe because of how far the catcher had to reach for Judge.
I wouldn’t say bang bang but it wasn’t ten feet
Seemed like a terrible decision to send him, but if they hadn't, it would've been first and third. Stanton had already stopped and only went to second on the throw home. A-Rod messed this up like 10 times last night, as well as calling Verdugo's hit a two-run double. You don't get a double when you get thrown out at second, numb-nuts.
10 feet? Seemed way more bang bang to me. Maybe because of how far the catcher had to reach for Judge.
I wouldn’t say bang bang but it wasn’t ten feet
Seemed like a terrible decision to send him, but if they hadn't, it would've been first and third. Stanton had already stopped and only went to second on the throw home. A-Rod messed this up like 10 times last night, as well as calling Verdugo's hit a two-run double. You don't get a double when you get thrown out at second, numb-nuts.
And ESPN said nothing about whether or not the 6th run scored. That's like broadcaster 101 -- did the runner touch homeplate before the the other guy was tagged, and I always naturally panic that the runner going home slowed down too much. They didn't show the score going into commercials and waited forever before showing it in the next inning. And then they didn't even talk about Verdugo's baserunnning. Was it stupid ending the inning because he should have known the Yankees had no chance throwing out the second runner? Guess that discussion would have interrupted the 3 hour discussion about Bucky Dent.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:43 am
by degenerasian
Why is the broadcasting so bad? Are they not trained? Are they trying too hard? This makes me yearn for Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:44 am
by HaulCitgo
I'd say it's ok to get thrown out trying to get to second if no one on third and two outs. But yeah was wondering the same about the 6th run.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:50 am
by L-Jam3
Nice mullet on Brian Harper!
I mentioned this 10 years ago, but the last three “1” years had all-time great World Series. ‘91 Twins-Braves was probably the best ever, easily the best in my memory. ‘01 D-Backs-Yanks was something special, especially in the shadow of 9/11, and ‘11 Cards-Rangers was a fun one, with an all-time crazy Game Six. Hopefully if it holds we’ll be treated with another barnbutner.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:08 am
by mister d
Reaper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:06 amA-Rod messed this up like 10 times last night, as well as calling Verdugo's hit a two-run double.
He also, if you combined all his comments, advocated for the Yankees going forward with a Core 3 of Judge, Rizzo and "future closer" Loaisiga (who then threw 8 straight balls in one of the highest pressure moments of his career (he turns 27 during the offseason)).
Alex is, I'd say indisputably, one of the absolute smartest baseball game minds of any public figure. He understands and communicates what the players are doing and thinking as well as anyone, but when he starts to do play by play or riff on "the bigger picture" or opine on players its just an absolute mess.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:28 am
by mister d
Alllllllso in case anyone is wondering I'm still pretty mad about Nevin.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:52 am
by MaxWebster
might have to agree to disagree :) as I would actually rather *not* have any name ex-players in the booth. Maybe it adds something...sometimes? Maybe? I'm trying to be nice, I think.
My highly scientific measurements have it as 15-1 annoying/useless comments to "oh that's a good point" over the past ~40 years so I'd love to go full TeamNerd™ for a while.
(and yes, the specifics of their stats can be better but to me that's like nitpicking a guy who whiffs on 3 bad pitches after going 4-5. More of this please!!)
MaxWebster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:18 am
i don't know D, that was the first time i saw a/the statcast feed and - maybe my bar is extremely low? - but that was as good as it can get for me. I don't recall hearing a single anecdote about "heart" or intangible garbage and it was all focused on the actual game. Fng awesome. Also maybe I missed it but I didn't see one batting average posted at all which was fascinating. Gimme more.
It has the potential to be a lot better but Perez just isn't the right guy for it. There are former players who have fully committed to understanding this stuff rather than "here's a guy we already use, lets shift him over".
(I also loved that with every batter on the regular feed they had "league average is 100" underneath OPS+. I didn't also love that they used OPS+ in the first place rather than start teaching people about wOBA.)
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:58 am
by Rex
I just listen to music during the games
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:14 am
by mister d
MaxWebster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:52 ammight have to agree to disagree :) as I would actually rather *not* have any name ex-players in the booth. Maybe it adds something...sometimes? Maybe? I'm trying to be nice, I think.
I think you're right more than you're wrong here, but the good ones are really good and add a ton by virtue of having played. Just in NY, Singleton, Cone and Hernandez are all great.
yeah i guess i knew that (7th inning HR) but you bring up a larger point that that game has been reduced to "the bucky dent game" or whatever but holy hell, it really was among the greatest games ever and that was only one part. Also as a former Red Sox fan I think Mike Torrez always got a raw deal - he pitched a good game up into the 7th and even then what are you gonna do. "315'"
Actually Reggie's HR was the eventual game-winner, and you can make the case that Lou Piniella won the game for the yanks in RF.
I might need to blow a few hours some day and watch the whole thing. (my parents let me leave 3rd grade early that day to watch it live. i remember spilling a bowl of goldfish crackers when Yaz hit his HR and then breaking my Red Sox helmet when it was over. such maturity hahaha)
We had the day off for Yom Kippur (I think), so I was able to watch it. I remember the Dent homer being the defining moment long before ESPN was around to hype it.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:04 pm
by Rex
Let’s not forget that there’s an equally important game in an equally important league going on right now. Max Scherzer’s on the Dodgers now?
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:08 pm
by A_B
Rex wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:04 pm
Let’s not forget that there’s an equally important game in an equally important league going on right now. Max Scherzer’s on the Dodgers now?
Barely. May not be after tonight.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:20 pm
by Brontoburglar
Sosa's having a horrid night so far
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:27 pm
by govmentchedda
Who are the two dudes in Nats jerseys?
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:28 pm
by A_B
Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:20 pm
Sosa's having a horrid night so far
Sosas have been known to succumb to the lights. Of the playoffs I mean.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:29 pm
by A_B
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:27 pm
Who are the two dudes in Nats jerseys?
Tell me you don’t have the volume up without telling me you don’t have the volume up.
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:35 pm
by Rex
Rex wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:58 am
I just listen to music during the games
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:11 pm
by govmentchedda
Cowboy Joe West still has a job?
Re: 2021 MLB Playoffs
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:29 pm
by A_B
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:11 pm
Cowboy Joe West still has a job?