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Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:58 pm
by sancarlos

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:50 am
by brian
The Sybian wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:39 am
brian wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:29 am
Shirley wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:25 am
brian wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:21 am Saw a Tesla semi truck heading into the Gigafactory outside Reno the other day. Kind of weird looking but kind of cool.
Electric trucks seems like a no-brainer, but I also remember reading that towing anything with a Tesla seriously reduces its range. Life, more affect than on ICEs. I don't remember the explanation for why. But maybe it's just a configuration thing. Obviously they wouldn't have built a semi without addressing range and towing capacity.
Yeah they’re still a decade away from solving the issue of being able to tow 80,000 lbs with an electric power train but it’ll be a huge win for reducing carbon when they get there.
What kind of effect do you think this will have on your new profession?
By the time it has a chance to significantly impact me I’ll be dead or retired so <shrug>

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:40 am
by Johnnie
Bruh.


Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:52 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Shirley wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:10 pm
Johnnie wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:37 am Holy shit, Dave. I hope your wife is doing ok. I'm sorry to hear that.
Thanks. It was amazing, other than some bruises, she just had a broken finger that wasn't quite bad enough to go to the emergency room. The SUV took the damage for her. Luckily it hit her on the passenger side and I guess wasn't going as fast as it could have been. The whole process of dealing with their insurance, finding a new car, buying it, arranging the loan and insurance has been a major pain in the ass, but I'm pretty excited for the Tesla.
Yikes. I'm glad she's okay.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:45 pm
by Shirley

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:48 pm
by A_B
I don’t know. But I think. Maybe. Just. Just maybe. It was a joke.

But enjoy the Tesla!

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:27 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Shirley wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:45 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:58 pm
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/report-evs ... ered-cars/
The autopilot is also probably way less likely to hit toddlers than cars that aren't using autopilot.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:53 pm
by The Sybian
Steve of phpBB wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:27 pm
The autopilot is also probably way less likely to hit toddlers than cars that aren't using autopilot.
I've probably ranted about it before, but it drives me nuts when the media makes a huge deal out of a self-driving car getting into an accident. It's inevitable, but human error causes a shitton of accidents every day. Ultimately, self driving cars will save tons of lives and injuries, but there is something chilling about dying due to a self driving car malfunctioning than dying because a person wasn't paying attention behind the wheel.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:03 pm
by govmentchedda
The thing that chaps me is the TESLA HAS A RECALL ON EVERY CAR headlines. Yeah, it's fixed with WiFi and a software update in like 5 minutes.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:24 am
by rass
First cyber truck sighting. GD it’s huge and stupid looking.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:51 pm
by The Sybian
rass wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:24 am First cyber truck sighting. GD it’s huge and stupid looking.
Ha, just saw one for the first time on Wednesday. It’s jarring. Much bigger and weirder seeing it on the road.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:17 pm
by DSafetyGuy


The reported repair time is 35 seconds... to attach the cover of the accelerator to the pedal so that it no longer slides out of place and gets caught in a seam of the car, locking the car in the fully accelerating position.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:54 am
by Johnnie

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 pm
by Steve of phpBB
I saw my first Cybertruck today. It looks like someone put sheet metal over an El Camino.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:35 pm
by Johnnie
Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 pm I saw my first Cybertruck today. It looks like someone put sheet metal over an El Camino.
It's been lovingly referred to as an 'Incel' Camino.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:05 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Johnnie wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:35 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 pm I saw my first Cybertruck today. It looks like someone put sheet metal over an El Camino.
It's been lovingly referred to as an 'Incel' Camino.
Lol

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:52 am
by DaveInSeattle
Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 pm I saw my first Cybertruck today. It looks like someone put sheet metal over an El Camino.
The one I've seen in my neighborhood has been wrapped/painted some kind of drab olive green. So so so ugly...

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 11:30 am
by mister d
The Sybian wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:51 pm
rass wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:24 am First cyber truck sighting. GD it’s huge and stupid looking.
Ha, just saw one for the first time on Wednesday. It’s jarring. Much bigger and weirder seeing it on the road.
Had a 12U road game in Chatham and there was one in the parking lot. Mockery ensued.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 11:33 am
by Nonlinear FC
It's just so jarring and when you look at how cool/clean the lines are on the Rivian you really have to wonder WTF ppl are thinking.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 2:33 pm
by Shirley
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:33 am It's just so jarring and when you look at how cool/clean the lines are on the Rivian you really have to wonder WTF ppl are thinking.
I really like the Rivian too.

BTW, what the fuck is Elon doing with firing his entire Supercharger team? That's the one clear competitive advantage Tesla still has.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 3:07 pm
by A_B
Shirley wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 2:33 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:33 am It's just so jarring and when you look at how cool/clean the lines are on the Rivian you really have to wonder WTF ppl are thinking.
I really like the Rivian too.

BTW, what the fuck is Elon doing with firing his entire Supercharger team? That's the one clear competitive advantage Tesla still has.
It just adds more proof that Elon is an idea guy with less clue than he thinks about how to implement for the long term. Really it looks like "hey, this is working, good job, you're all fired" is a real thought that goes through his mind. Just kinda stops when he's say, 60% of the way there because he saw something shiny or whatnot.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 5:23 pm
by HaulCitgo
Tesla box car on my street

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 5:29 pm
by HaulCitgo
Also rivian repair maybe 1/4 mile from the house. Lots of rivians

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 10:22 pm
by Johnnie
If these two Rivians get cheap enough you're going to see a lot more of them.


Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:18 pm
by Shirley
Very promising. It's so interesting seeing how much innovation and better design we're getting from new companies. We can all hate Elon, but there's no denying the impact that Tesla has had.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 1:11 pm
by Nonlinear FC
I guess the way my brain has dealt with Tesla is that, as you've said (dave), that company was full of really brilliant, creative and innovative people before Elon came along. I'm not discounting his role in elevating/advancing the company, but to act like everything that has come out of Tesla is solely due to Elon's brilliance isn't close to accurate.

So... I would never give that company my money... but I do appreciate what the company has done to move EV's forward in a massive way.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:39 pm
by sancarlos
Saw a Fisker SUV today. Not bad looking. Too bad the company is in financial trouble .

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 3:54 pm
by Steve of phpBB
Nonlinear FC wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 1:11 pm I guess the way my brain has dealt with Tesla is that, as you've said (dave), that company was full of really brilliant, creative and innovative people before Elon came along. I'm not discounting his role in elevating/advancing the company, but to act like everything that has come out of Tesla is solely due to Elon's brilliance isn't close to accurate.

So... I would never give that company my money... but I do appreciate what the company has done to move EV's forward in a massive way.
I think that the great things that have come out of Tesla are attributable in large part to Musk’s arrogance, not his brilliance.

Which was pretty damned important at the time, and if we manage to avoid the worst of global climate change, a lot of credit will have to go to Musk.

But he’s outlived his usefulness by now.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 1:16 pm
by mister d
Followup on the tesla truck: There was one in my town last weekend and I nearly got hit in a crosswalk because a driver was looking at it parked on the street. He put up the "sorry / forgive me" hands, then pointed back at the truck and we both laughed.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 1:56 pm
by The Sybian
mister d wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:16 pm Followup on the tesla truck: There was one in my town last weekend and I nearly got hit in a crosswalk because a driver was looking at it parked on the street. He put up the "sorry / forgive me" hands, then pointed back at the truck and we both laughed.
You can't be mad at a guy for almost running you over because he was laughing at a Cybertruck.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:23 pm
by mister d
Would have been an amazing way to go and there's undoubtedly security footage there.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:26 pm
by A_B
He died doing what he loved: ridiculing others with strangers.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:50 pm
by Nonlinear FC
mister d wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:23 pm Would have been an amazing way to go and there's undoubtedly security footage there.
Right, from the Cybertruck no doubt.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:53 pm
by Giff

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 3:38 pm
by mister d
Youngest is playing Roblox and just came up to show me "they have the boxy Tesla in this game ... ... it works horribly".

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:42 pm
by rass
A_B wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:26 pm He died doing what he loved: ridiculing others with strangers.
Looking too closely at a license plate

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 1:09 pm
by blundercrush
If you replace cars reasonably often, have a place to charge, and won't ever really stress the range then an electric car is fine. My sister has a Tesla in Hawaii with a house to charge it at and garage to keep it in, that seems perfectly fine.

My issue is that most people usually keep their cars for 5-10 years, and with the exception of Teslas, we haven't really seen those cars hold up that long, and usually only with a battery replacement. Do people even keep Tesla's for 5+ years?

rental companies are also getting out of the electric car business at a macro level because it has been INCREDIBLY expensive for them to try and service them/there isn't enough supply of mechanics/shops/etc to work on them, which, for a single user may or may not be a huge deal if you buy the unit new with a warranty, but otherwise, seems pretty concerning.

A hybrid car will still likely run into issues, but unless something goes HORRIBLY wrong, it will still function as a gas car.

(big mad)
Also full self driving will absolutely kill you/your family, and your neighbors, so if you are stupid enough to use that shit you deserve what's coming to you.

Edit: The Hyper Truck is the ugliest piece of shit I have ever seen on this planet and I am generally pretty forgiving of most cars, even the Aztek was before its time and now is just kind of ugly.

(/bigmad)

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 1:48 pm
by Johnnie
There's an area in my neighborhood that's about 3.5 acres which would be perfect for a park/charging station for my town. (It's about 5 minutes off the highway too. So yes, it might spike traffic.)

However, since where I live is unincorporated and isn't a city with a true city government, the land is zoned for a business or corporation development. (If it was a city, tax dollars could buy it and then tax dollars could construct someone worthwhile.)

Does anybody know who I can call and rizz up at Electrify America or Tesla or whoever to buy that land and develop it?

I wish I was a philanthropic billionaire so I could do something for the community right now.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 1:57 pm
by A_B
If I lived in your neighborhood and you put in a fucking charging station I might murder you in your sleep.

Re: Electric Vehicles

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 2:03 pm
by Steve of phpBB
blundercrush wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 1:09 pmAlso full self driving will absolutely kill you/your family, and your neighbors, so if you are stupid enough to use that shit you deserve what's coming to you.
To be fair, so will human drivers.