Hey guys, 42-year-old women can be hot

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:42 pm

In case you thought they were all gross and old and everything and were about to send your 42-year-old female friend to the nursing home.

(The guy who wrote this was born in 1958)

Post by **brian** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:46 pm

You know, I think you missed the point of that piece, Bronto.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:52 pm

brian wrote:You know, I think you missed the point of that piece, Bronto.

Oh, how so?

Post by **brian** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:57 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
brian wrote:You know, I think you missed the point of that piece, Bronto.
Oh, how so?

First off, the author's age is irrelevant because his point of view is that of Esquire magazine (or more accurately, all men). Esquire does this "Women We Love" issue every year where they pick the "best age" for a woman. It's a stupid conceit, but they've done it for umpteen million years at this point. The author could have just as easily been 25.

That aside, he's saying the implication of a woman's age being 42 isn't what it used to be in popular culture using The Graduate as a specific example. I assume you've seen The Graduate? If not, I can understand how the whole thing went completely over your head.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:01 pm

brian wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
brian wrote:You know, I think you missed the point of that piece, Bronto.
Oh, how so?
First off, the author's age is irrelevant because his point of view is that of Esquire magazine (or more accurately, all men). Esquire does this "Women We Love" issue every year where they pick the "best age" for a woman. It's a stupid conceit, but they've done it for umpteen million years at this point. The author could have just as easily been 25.

That aside, he's saying the implication of a woman's age being 42 isn't what it used to be in popular culture using The Graduate as a specific example. I assume you've seen The Graduate? If not, I can understand how the whole thing went completely over your head.

Yes, I have. And maybe it's a generational thing, but I have a hard time seeing this as revelatory. Maybe it's because it's been the new standard, but outside of the propensity in media to hire 25-year-old females in on-camera positions, it's something that doesn't feel like it needs a "42-year-olds are hot!" stamp.

Sure, do we age females as a stupid society faster than we age males? Yes. But I don't think common sense people do.

Post by **brian** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:05 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:Yes, I have. And maybe it's a generational thing, but I have a hard time seeing this as revelatory. Maybe it's because it's been the new standard, but outside of the propensity in media to hire 25-year-old females in on-camera positions, it's something that doesn't feel like it needs a "42-year-olds are hot!" stamp.

Well, again I think the idea is that it's not supposed to be revelatory, but a somewhat gentle reminder. Because yeah, there's always been and always will be a tendency to celebrate youth.

Maybe it's because I'm familiar with Esquire and their writers, but I didn't read it as some Maxim-esque "OMG, can you believe there's hot 42 year olds out there" but rather a kind of reminder that a woman's age doesn't dictate her attractiveness.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:11 pm

brian wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:Yes, I have. And maybe it's a generational thing, but I have a hard time seeing this as revelatory. Maybe it's because it's been the new standard, but outside of the propensity in media to hire 25-year-old females in on-camera positions, it's something that doesn't feel like it needs a "42-year-olds are hot!" stamp.
Well, again I think the idea is that it's not supposed to be revelatory, but a somewhat gentle reminder. Because yeah, there's always been and always will be a tendency to celebrate youth.

Maybe it's because I'm familiar with Esquire and their writers, but I didn't read it as some Maxim-esque "OMG, can you believe there's hot 42 year olds out there" but rather a kind of reminder that a woman's age doesn't dictate her attractiveness.

I read Esquire every month too and I just thought that the reminder was dumb -- because it's a "duh" statement if there ever was one.

I do wonder if growing up in the era of the "cougar" has something to do with it.

Post by **brian** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:13 pm

Brontoburglar wrote:
brian wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:Yes, I have. And maybe it's a generational thing, but I have a hard time seeing this as revelatory. Maybe it's because it's been the new standard, but outside of the propensity in media to hire 25-year-old females in on-camera positions, it's something that doesn't feel like it needs a "42-year-olds are hot!" stamp.
Well, again I think the idea is that it's not supposed to be revelatory, but a somewhat gentle reminder. Because yeah, there's always been and always will be a tendency to celebrate youth.

Maybe it's because I'm familiar with Esquire and their writers, but I didn't read it as some Maxim-esque "OMG, can you believe there's hot 42 year olds out there" but rather a kind of reminder that a woman's age doesn't dictate her attractiveness.
I read Esquire every month too and I just thought that the reminder was dumb -- because it's a "duh" statement if there ever was one.

I do wonder if growing up in the era of the "cougar" has something to do with it.

Maybe, it could just be a generational thing like you said.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:07 pm

2 months short of 42, but unless Queen Letizia of Spain is in a horrific accident, she will add to the argument. It's good to be the King!

And right as I'm thinking she must have no ass, I see this picture of her with former French First Lady Carla Bruni:

She looks a lot like Natalie Morales in several pics Google Image turned up. I have a major thing for Natalie Morales, who just turned 42.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:26 am

Dayum. She is right up my alley. The fact that she's totally out of my league makes me like her even more.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:28 am

So you like gorgeous woman. Duly noted. I hear you though, totally the look I go for. Skinnier than I prefer, but I'd get over that real quick. Apparently she was controversial, as she was a commoner and a divorcee.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:38 am

Thin, petite brunettes are my weakness. See Susana Hoffs, Penelope Cruz, Kate Middleton, my wife, and now, Queen Letizia.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:58 pm

govmentchedda wrote:Thin, petite brunettes are my weakness. See Susana Hoffs, Penelope Cruz, Kate Middleton, my wife, and now, Queen Latifah.

Fixed.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:10 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:Thin, petite brunettes are my weakness. See Susana Hoffs, Penelope Cruz, Kate Middleton, my wife, and now, Queen Latifah.
Fixed.

Cerrano has a good friend who thought she was super sexy. Second to only Bette Midler. Or maybe third to Bette Midler and cerrano's mom.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:25 pm

rass wrote:
DSafetyGuy wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:Thin, petite brunettes are my weakness. See Susana Hoffs, Penelope Cruz, Kate Middleton, my wife, and now, Queen Latifah.
Fixed.
Cerrano has a good friend who thought she was super sexy. Second to only Bette Midler. Or maybe third to Bette Midler and cerrano's mom.

Great for him, he has no competition bagging ugly broads and Cerrano's mom.

SportsDoc · Post by **SportsDoc** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:02 pm

I agree. 42 year old women can be very hot.

And, I should know, I slept with one for a whole year ... 19 years ago!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:11 pm

If your in your 30s all the girls you lusted over as a teenager are now 42.

teeteebee · Post by **teeteebee** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:13 pm

degenerasian wrote:If your in your 30s all the girls you lusted over as a teenager are now 42.

This. As I approach 40, I keep pushing the bar back. 42 is nothing. My litmus test is late 40s at this point. Perhaps even early 50s. As the guy at the water ice stand by my house once put it as a late 40 year old smoke show walked by, "old chicken still makes good broth". I believe that.

Late 40s to 50s ain't what it used to be.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:20 pm

That's a tremendously gross quote.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:01 am

mister d wrote:That's a tremendously gross quote.

And yet if you put it in the context of things commonly overheard at Philly area water ice stands, it's positively charming.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:14 am

degenerasian wrote:If your in your 30s all the girls you lusted over as a teenager are now 42.

When I was 24, I had a summer long fling with an older woman I met at work. She was 38. Awesome time in my life.

She will start collecting her pension in a few months.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:16 am

teeteebee wrote:
degenerasian wrote:If your in your 30s all the girls you lusted over as a teenager are now 42.
This. As I approach 40, I keep pushing the bar back. 42 is nothing. My litmus test is late 40s at this point. Perhaps even early 50s. As the guy at the water ice stand by my house once put it as a late 40 year old smoke show walked by, "old chicken still makes good broth". I believe that.

Late 40s to 50s ain't what it used to be.

Just the other day, the attractive woman in my office was telling me about her hot flashes due to menopause.

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:49 am

I traveled to Norcal for my 40th high school reunion (and to see the Giants get swept). The reunion was by far the more depressing part of my trip. A room full of 57yo grandmother-looking women. Very nice looking grandmothers, but man where did the damn time go? OTOH, plastic surgery done right is pretty amazing; one gal is a working actress (so her reconstruction is an investment in her career) and Roberta looks 42 and fine. A couple other examples of good surgery. But a world of difference from ten years ago when I last saw most of these folks.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:02 am

howard wrote:I traveled to Norcal for my 40th high school reunion (and to see the Giants get swept). The reunion was by far the more depressing part of my trip. A room full of 57yo grandmother-looking women. Very nice looking grandmothers, but man where did the damn time go? OTOH, plastic surgery done right is pretty amazing; one gal is a working actress (so her reconstruction is an investment in her career) and Roberta looks 42 and fine. A couple other examples of good surgery. But a world of difference from ten years ago when I last saw most of these folks.

Heading to my 20th next weekend. Expecting the same thing. A lot of the hot girls from HS still looked good, a couple train wrecks, and a handful of "holy shit, who is that?" I guess some girls were just late bloomers. Before the reunion, I hired a HS buddy as an intern (he was in law school). An older male attorney was asking me about some amazingly hot girl he was hanging out with. My buddy told me, and I went back and made fun of the attorney for thinking she was hot. She grew up 5 houses down the street from me and was far from attractive. Maybe it was the basketball size tits she eventually had reduced bringing the eye away from everywhere else. Randomly ran into he on the streets of Manhattan one day, and damn she was hot as hell. Completely shocked.

The good news was seeing my unrequited love. Always had bad timing, and never got together. She put on a ton of weight and looked older than her years. Made me feel a lot better.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:38 am

I'm the same age as you Syb. My 20th is this year too but my HS' alumni is so disorganized that nothing is planned. They had a 10 year reunion but I was out of town at that time. It would have been nice to see some people after 20 years.

I still have a group of friends from HS, we'll probably get together for something soon.

Speaking of 42 here are some actresses who are around 42.

Christina Applegate
Cameron Diaz
Sofia Vergara
Leslie Mann
Julie Benz
Jennifer Garner
Alyssa Milano
Gwyneth Paltrow
Jenny McCarthy
Angie Harmon
Carmen Electra

yeah TV was pretty good when I was in HS.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:47 am

degenerasian wrote:I'm the same age as you Syb. My 20th is this year too but my HS' alumni is so disorganized that nothing is planned. They had a 10 year reunion but I was out of town at that time. It would have been nice to see some people after 20 years.

I still have a group of friends from HS, we'll probably get together for something soon.

Speaking of 42 here are some actresses who are around 42.

Christina Applegate
Cameron Diaz
Sofia Vergara
Leslie Mann
Julie Benz
Jennifer Garner
Alyssa Milano
Gwyneth Paltrow
Jenny McCarthy
Angie Harmon
Carmen Electra

yeah TV was pretty good when I was in HS.

And don't forget Mrs. Sybian.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:05 am

Deadspin just did a (fully justified) takedown of Saved by the Bell and it came up in the comments that today is Elizabeth Berkeley's 42nd birthday. Somehow that jarred me more than any of the other names here.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:06 am

One of the best things about growing older is the expansion of the "hot" pool. I'm finding 50-somethings hot these days. Of course, the minimum age has also gone up a little, but not nearly as much.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:12 am

Giff wrote:One of the best things about growing older is the expansion of the "hot" pool. I'm finding 50-somethings hot these days. Of course, the minimum age has also gone up a little, but not nearly as much.

I've been noticing my minimum age rising. Early 20s look like children to me now.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:53 am

The Sybian wrote:
Giff wrote:One of the best things about growing older is the expansion of the "hot" pool. I'm finding 50-somethings hot these days. Of course, the minimum age has also gone up a little, but not nearly as much.
I've been noticing my minimum age rising. Early 20s look like children to me now.

yeah, what's your youngest range? Emma Watson at 24?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:03 am

Giff wrote:One of the best things about growing older is the expansion of the "hot" pool. I'm finding 50-somethings hot these days. Of course, the minimum age has also gone up a little, but not nearly as much.

This is a really good way of putting it. The average girl my age is probably lower on the 1-10 scale but the overall pool of who I find attractive is so much higher than in the early 20s. Although I'm not quite going up into the 50+ range yet like you and PDX.

Sybian wrote:I've been noticing my minimum age rising. Early 20s look like children to me now.

This too. Roughest part of moving from Boston to a suburb is all of the goddamn high school kids dressing like they dress right now. I feel like my life would be much easier if I were some perv who leered at them versus a guy who gets disgusted and then realizes I'm like 11 years away from having to deal with all that shit in house.

Also, I have on good authority that Angie Harmon, in person, is unbelievable.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:06 am

A love letter to Aunt Becky on her 50th birthday

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:26 am

degenerasian wrote:
The Sybian wrote:
Giff wrote:One of the best things about growing older is the expansion of the "hot" pool. I'm finding 50-somethings hot these days. Of course, the minimum age has also gone up a little, but not nearly as much.
I've been noticing my minimum age rising. Early 20s look like children to me now.
yeah, what's your youngest range? Emma Watson at 24?

Completely on an individual basis. Emma Watson at 18 was toeing the line. I have a ridiculous crush on her. That 18 yo in the Country music discussion might pass, too.

D, I completely agree on the HS girls. I find myself holding back on lecturing them and telling them to put some pants on. The shortness of shorts these girls are wearing is unacceptable. I live next door to twin girls 15 or 16 yo, and I feel like a cranky old get off my lawn guy with my need to lecture them.

My daughter loves Full House, and I 100% approve of my teenage crush on Aunt Becky. Even my wife approves. My son isn't there yet. I look forward to reminding him of his disgust at the giant pictures on the side of the Victoria's Secret at the mall.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:30 am

I live across the street from one who is probably like 16 and seems like a really good kid and still ... ugh. Really hope grunge comes back around in a decade. I'm already working on brainwashing Quinlan; when we were sitting out for the fireworks some girls walked by in the standard uniform and I said to her "those girls are probably cold, they need sweatshirts like us" and every time a girl walked by after that she'd give a really (unintentionally, of course) mocking "she needs a sweatshirt" and laugh.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:36 am

Yep, my daughter is 13 1/2 and I'm starting to consider the positive arguments for gun ownership. I'm really beginning to dislike teenage boys.

I was at my wife's family reunion in Missouri over the weekend, and talking to her hot 21 year-old niece, I felt borderline like a pervy old coot; could barely look the girl in the eye. (Sorry about the rules - no pix.)

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:28 pm

mister d wrote:
Also, I have on good authority that Angie Harmon, in person, is unbelievable.

I was startled with how skinny she was when I saw her in November

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:40 pm

I'm glad that I am not in public service at the library. Just walking across the campus every morning I have to fight the leer. Though truth be told I only would look at the upperclasswomen.

(and there didn't seem to be a sundress day here at CU, weather is nice enough that it slowly evolves rather than one big flashing of white which was the norm at UNH.)

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:08 am

Playing out the string on a workday where we'll be closing early and catching up on one of my favorite regular columns led to some great Susanna Hoffs info that I wasn't aware of:

When Hoffs recorded her “Eternal Flame” vocal, (producer Davitt) Sigerson told her that Olivia Newton-John recorded all her best vocals while naked. This sounds like some creep shit that somebody might say if they were hoping to see Susanna Hoffs naked. Hoffs gave it a try, and she liked how the song turned out so much that she actually recorded all of her vocals for the Everything album in the nude. (Sigerson apparently did not see her naked. Hoffs in The Guardian: “Nobody could see me; there was a baffle in front of me, and it was dark.”)

And no idea how I missed all of this, even though I was aware of her working relationship with Mathew Sweet:

In the early ’90s, Hoffs got together with a couple of friends, Matthew Sweet and Mike Meyers, to form a new band called Ming Tea. (Matthew Sweet’s highest-charting single, 1995’s “Sick Of Myself,” peaked at #58.) Ming Tea was a fun side thing, not a big career move, but it turned out to be important anyway.

Ming Tea played retro ’60s-style rock, and the band members all gave themselves stage names and personas. Susanna Hoffs was Gillian Shagwell. Mike Myers was Austin Powers. Eventually, Myers wrote a movie based on the Austin Powers character. In 1993, Hoffs had married the director Jay Roach. (They’re still together.) Myers wrote the movie Austin Powers: International Man Of Mystery, and Roach directed it. In the movie, Myers sings “BBC,” with the rest of Ming Tea backing him up.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:14 am

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:03 amRoughest part of moving from Boston to a suburb is all of the goddamn high school kids dressing like they dress right now. I feel like my life would be much easier if I were some perv who leered at them versus a guy who gets disgusted and then realizes I'm like 11 years away from having to deal with all that shit in house.

[checks calendar]

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:45 am

sancarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:36 am Yep, my daughter is 13 1/2 and I'm starting to consider the positive arguments for gun ownership. I'm really beginning to dislike teenage boys.

I was at my wife's family reunion in Missouri over the weekend, and talking to her hot 21 year-old niece, I felt borderline like a pervy old coot; could barely look the girl in the eye. (Sorry about the rules - no pix.)

Now I'm curious about the status of said daughter and niece. And was the gun ever purchased?