Presidential Election 2024

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sancarlos wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:28 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:31 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:19 pm
Brontoburglar wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:42 am Florida citizens have voted for fairly progressive things statewide recently while still voting for Republicans in elected offices
While I don't disagree with your overall point... It's pretty hard to find 2 issues that would produce more fervor among young, first time voters than pot and abortion rights.
Missouri just legalized recreational marijuana and will very likely have a constitutional amendment on the ballot in November that would reverse the statewide abortion ban.

I'd bet it passes while also not changing the presidential results all that much
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Ooooooh edgy.

US president acknowledges that he's seen pictures of malnourished children in the war-torn desert.

Pictures at 11.
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If a year ago everyone here saw that exact sentence with the name of the president redacted, not a single person here would guess Biden over Trump.
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mister d wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:57 pm If a year ago everyone here saw that exact sentence with the name of the president redacted, not a single person here would guess Biden over Trump.
Well, except for the fact that Trump says callous, insensitive shit so often he leaves essentially zero room for some sort of plausible deniability.

Biden's never done or said much of anything that would suggest his heart isn't in the right place.

The whole "let's hold Democrats to a higher standard" is so played out.
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I think we have very different baselines for the standard.
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mister d wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:29 pm
He (Biden) could have also meant he's seen pictures of malnourished children in Gaza (as most of us have) in general. Or they look very similar to pictures he has seen.

This is a dumb thing to try and make an argument.
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No, Biden hate kids especially Palestineans. Mr D cracked the case.
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Would you say Biden cares about Palestinian kids?
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I imagine he does. I imagine he cares about Israeli kids as well. Being President doesn’t give you magical powers that allow you to sprinkle fairy dust on a thousand-year conflict and resolve it to everyone’s satisfaction however.
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But what if, hypothetically, a president was actively “sprinkling fairy dust” (supplying an endless arsenal of weapons) that were being used to kill thousands and thousands of children? Couldn’t they just stop “sprinkling fairy dust” (supplying an endless arsenal of weapons)?
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Wild!

He's actually talking to Black people.
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He just thinks they are the staff.
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see? he has black friends
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(editor's note: An original version of this article noted that Trump said the owner of the store was a member of one of his golf clubs; Chick-fil-A contacted 11Alive to say the owner does not know Trump. It's unclear if Trump may have been referring to someone else.)
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Was not expecting brain worms to be a headline this morning...

R.F.K. Jr. Says Doctors Found a Dead Worm in His Brain
In 2010, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was experiencing memory loss and mental fogginess so severe that a friend grew concerned he might have a brain tumor. Mr. Kennedy said he consulted several of the country’s top neurologists, many of whom had either treated or spoken to his uncle, Senator Edward M. Kennedy, before his death the previous year of brain cancer.

Several doctors noticed a dark spot on the younger Mr. Kennedy’s brain scans and concluded that he had a tumor, he said in a 2012 deposition reviewed by The New York Times. Mr. Kennedy was immediately scheduled for a procedure at Duke University Medical Center by the same surgeon who had operated on his uncle, he said.

While packing for the trip, he said, he received a call from a doctor at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital who had a different opinion: Mr. Kennedy, he believed, had a dead parasite in his head.

The doctor believed that the abnormality seen on his scans “was caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died,” Mr. Kennedy said in the deposition.
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This story actually makes a lot of sense. He used to seem so normal, intelligent and focused on sane topics.
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If self-admitted brain worms influence the election then we’re pretty much done with pretend democracy right?
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Charles Pierce has been using brain worms to describe the GOP since Reagan so truth is finally stranger than fiction.
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I’ve so curated myself off of the day to day politics /trump stuff I’m finally lost - brain worms in some literal context?
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Ok, caught up - and it wasn’t even Trump . Helluvathing -

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Here it is...the dumbest thing you'll read this week...

Trump can win as the anti-chaos candidate
This creates an opportunity for Trump to seize the mantle as the anti-chaos candidate. His winning message is not to promise “retribution” against those he believes wronged him. It is to tell Americans: Maybe you didn’t like the way I talked, but the border was secure, the economy was strong (before the pandemic hit), inflation was low and the world was largely at peace. What do you care more about: my mouth or your pocketbook? My behavior, or the behavior of Russia, Iran and Hamas? My insults, or illegal immigrants pouring across our border and overwhelming our communities?
The RFK Jr brain worm has clearly found a new host...
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 12:23 pm Here it is...the dumbest thing you'll read this week...

Trump can win as the anti-chaos candidate
This creates an opportunity for Trump to seize the mantle as the anti-chaos candidate. His winning message is not to promise “retribution” against those he believes wronged him. It is to tell Americans: Maybe you didn’t like the way I talked, but the border was secure, the economy was strong (before the pandemic hit), inflation was low and the world was largely at peace. What do you care more about: my mouth or your pocketbook? My behavior, or the behavior of Russia, Iran and Hamas? My insults, or illegal immigrants pouring across our border and overwhelming our communities?
The RFK Jr brain worm has clearly found a new host...
Very dumb alright. One thing there that upsets me it the idea some idiots believe that somehow Trump has influence or control on the behavior of Russia, Iran, and/or Hamas. If anything, he makes it worse.
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sancarlos wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 1:40 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 12:23 pm Here it is...the dumbest thing you'll read this week...

Trump can win as the anti-chaos candidate
This creates an opportunity for Trump to seize the mantle as the anti-chaos candidate. His winning message is not to promise “retribution” against those he believes wronged him. It is to tell Americans: Maybe you didn’t like the way I talked, but the border was secure, the economy was strong (before the pandemic hit), inflation was low and the world was largely at peace. What do you care more about: my mouth or your pocketbook? My behavior, or the behavior of Russia, Iran and Hamas? My insults, or illegal immigrants pouring across our border and overwhelming our communities?
The RFK Jr brain worm has clearly found a new host...
Very dumb alright. One thing there that upsets me it the idea some idiots believe that somehow Trump has influence or control on the behavior of Russia, Iran, and/or Hamas. If anything, he makes it worse.
But Trump says he does, and his cult believes everything he says. When Putin invaded Ukraine, Trump blamed Biden and said Putin wouldn't have invaded if Trump was President, because Trump would have told him not to. And I've heard countless idiots parrot that. While the logic in the article is stupid, I actually think if Trump took that approach, people would believe it.
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The Sybian wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 2:48 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 1:40 pm
DaveInSeattle wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 12:23 pm Here it is...the dumbest thing you'll read this week...

Trump can win as the anti-chaos candidate
This creates an opportunity for Trump to seize the mantle as the anti-chaos candidate. His winning message is not to promise “retribution” against those he believes wronged him. It is to tell Americans: Maybe you didn’t like the way I talked, but the border was secure, the economy was strong (before the pandemic hit), inflation was low and the world was largely at peace. What do you care more about: my mouth or your pocketbook? My behavior, or the behavior of Russia, Iran and Hamas? My insults, or illegal immigrants pouring across our border and overwhelming our communities?
The RFK Jr brain worm has clearly found a new host...
Very dumb alright. One thing there that upsets me it the idea some idiots believe that somehow Trump has influence or control on the behavior of Russia, Iran, and/or Hamas. If anything, he makes it worse.
But Trump says he does, and his cult believes everything he says. When Putin invaded Ukraine, Trump blamed Biden and said Putin wouldn't have invaded if Trump was President, because Trump would have told him not to. And I've heard countless idiots parrot that. While the logic in the article is stupid, I actually think if Trump took that approach, people would believe it.
Trump being president might actually influence Russia to behave "better" - because Putin knows that he's better off with Trump/GOP in power so would not want to push the envelope so much.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Cmon. He’d have total impunity.
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P.D.X. wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:24 pm Cmon. He’d have total impunity.
To invade Ukraine and kill tens of thousands?
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mister d wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:21 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:24 pm Cmon. He’d have total impunity.
To invade Ukraine and kill tens of thousands?
Yes, and without US support for Ukraine. The GOP has made that very clear. I'm pretty sure this war would have gone very differently had Trump been president.
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mister d wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:21 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 6:24 pm Cmon. He’d have total impunity.
To invade Ukraine and kill tens of thousands?
To conquer Ukraine, subsequent countries and kill millions.
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I like that Biden is challenging him to debate(s), but it’d be even more fun if he professional called him a pussy, and point out that he never showed his tax returns like he said he would, so he doesn’t expect him to show up because, again, he’s a pussy.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 10:10 am I like that Biden is challenging him to debate(s), but it’d be even more fun if he professional called him a pussy, and point out that he never showed his tax returns like he said he would, so he doesn’t expect him to show up because, again, he’s a pussy.
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I think it's a fantastic idea. Biden sounds like Einstein when compared to Trump trying to answer an actual question.
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Giff wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 1:20 pm I think it's a fantastic idea. Biden sounds like Einstein when compared to Trump trying to answer an actual question.
Hillary even more so, but he gained at the debates against Hillary.
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The Sybian wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 1:28 pm
Giff wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 1:20 pm I think it's a fantastic idea. Biden sounds like Einstein when compared to Trump trying to answer an actual question.
Hillary even more so, but he gained at the debates against Hillary.
But that was before his current state. The debates for 2016 were many peoples introduction to Trump and most of the country had a major dislike for Hillary because 1. she is a woman and 2. her emails.
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Are we underestimating Biden just a little bit? He's a lot emotionally tougher than we've been giving him credit, and this guy has decades of experience in front of the mike. He's also going up against a guy who is clearly in mental decline. I can very easily see Biden chuckling at him, needling him, and getting him off his game to the point where TFG goes completely off script and either shits himself onstage, and/or rushes to attack Biden physically. And since TFG is in bad physical shape, he'd be likely to trip and fall and crack his dumb head open. That sounds like a win/win.
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I've mentioned before my history of being bullied in my youth. And if there's one thing I've learned, is that the majority of bullies are pussies too. If a person just stands up to them, or even better, punch them back, the majority of them will back down. And TFG is exactly the type of pussy-ass bully that would fold. Think of how he was born white, male, and rich, and yet spends the majority of every rally complaining how unfair he gets treated. Show this TFG as the total pussy that he is. Sure, the MAGA dipshits will still vote for him, but just walk him into the trap.

ETA: and I may have said this before. Being born white and male is playing the game on the easiest difficulty level. Being born with rich parents is playing the game after putting the Contra 30-man code in before you play it.
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